[FFML] Atb.: The end of the FFML

[Alexander CHEEZEM]

Both of these are decent enough points. The FFML isn't just a way to distribute fics, and while not many have been sent out recently, the fics that *have* been posted of late (Fox's "fics" aside) have received a decent enough amount of criticism and discussion.

Beyond that, the FFML is a community and a way to reach the "old crowd" as much as it is a place to post fics... especially these days. When I made that comment about half-expecting my obituary to go out over the FFML, I wasn't joking.
Like Fox, I don't have the money to do much. My family's suffered a significant income loss (~1/3) due to COVID and associated issues, and I'm facing a series of unexpected and substantial expenses to boot. Even if I'd normally be able to help here (and that's questionable), I can't now.

 Is the FFML obsolete? It *is* a bit of a dinosaur, but it's a beloved one and not exactly that difficult to keep afloat. Were it up to me, it wouldn't be ending now.
It's not up to me, and I understand the reasons why this is happening and support the decisions of the people involved. Still, I'll be sad to see it go.
And that's enough, at least to me, to make me want to try to save it.

-- Aleh
 
 
-----Original Message-----
From: Weiss Schnee <weissschnee333 at gmail.com>
To: The Fanfiction Mailing List <ffml at chez-vrolet.net>
Sent: Mon, Apr 5, 2021 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: [FFML] Atb.: The end of the FFML

The question is... do we really want to let the FFML die now. I don't really know about anyone else. But, my answer is... no I do not want to let it die.

Unfortunately, I have no money. All my funds are all into Fanfic Paradise now. And I have nothing left to give.

Somebody out there must have enough money. And want to save it right now. I hope that they will do something.



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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Kleppe" <gary at garykleppe.org>
To: <ffml at chez-vrolet.net>
Sent: Monday, April 05, 2021 3:44 PM
Subject: Re: [FFML] Atb.: The end of the FFML


> It wouldn't be all that difficult nor expensive to set up the FFML 
> somewhere else. The service I use to host my garykleppe.org domain costs 
> me $4/month for hosting plus domain registration which is currently 
> something like $13/year.
> 
> The question is, do we really want to? The amount of actual serious 
> writing discussion on the list over the past few years has been pretty 
> close to zero. There's little point in doing this if people are not 
> willing to put in the work to make it work. If the list is only going to 
> serve as a conduit for authors to get their stories to readers, there 
> are other venues that can fulfill that function.
> 
> 
> On 4/5/21 3:02 PM, Alexander CHEEZEM wrote:
>> I've done some basic research into what it'd take to save (or create another incarnation of) the FFML. The very short version is that it'd either take someone with a server or a $10-$20 per month expense.
>> I can't pay that out of pocket right now.
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