[FFML] [ADMIN] Server level changes instituted due to mail policy changes elsewhere

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Carr" <dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net>
To: <ffml at chez-vrolet.net>
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 11:12 PM
Subject: [FFML] [ADMIN] Server level changes instituted due to mail policy 
changes elsewhere


> Heya.  Friendly neighborhood server op guy here. =)
>
> For this one there's a short version and a longer version
>
> tl;dr: I am NOT ending the list; policy changes out on the internet at
> large that I didn't get the memo on caused several bounces; server level
> changes here have been instituted; also, if you want off the list,
> please just unsubscribe, I won't sell your email.
>
> So what's the skinny?
>
> Well, first off - no, I'm not ending the list.  =)  If the time comes
> that the server has to end, then I'll end the list at that point.
>
> Recently, policies have been becoming more rampant on the internet at
> large to prevent email spam - the long and short is that email
> providers (me included) are bloody sick of this garbage and want it to
> stop, so new standards at the admin level are always taking root.
>
> Well...I didn't get the memo on how to institute one of them, and
> suddenly several dozen of you got bounced out and mistaken for
> unsolicited email, primarily on Yahoo's stuff.  The side effect is that
> some of you were bounced out into no-mail mode.
>
> (Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming yahoo.com in the slightest.  I
> don't blame them.  And frankly, I should have kept up on this - so I
> bear at least some of the fault here as a server operator.)
>
> One of the critical changes - called DMARC - have been implemented.  I
> basically have to tell providers how they should handle mail that says
> it comes from chez-vrolet.net but did not actually come from my
> server.  Another change for the very near future will be DKIM, which
> basically provides a public-private key exchange to further validate
> email sources. (SPF, for what it's worth, is a little different - that's
> more along the lines of telling receiving servers where email can be
> expected to and/or is permitted to come from given a domain name.)
>
> (For the curious, a quick search on your favorite search engine will
> turn up information on DKIM, DMARC, and SPF.  If you don't run a
> server, it's not something you ever need to really do anything with
> beyond satisfying your curiousity - but your email provider likely
> already has at least one of these implemented, so kudos on them. =^_^= )
>
> I've cleared the no-mail bits from those who bounced out so
> unexpectedly - so if you can read this, things are at least fixed on
> that front.  Why it so suddenly happened is partially beyond my ability
> to know, but it seemed a little bit random - it wasn't everyone on this
> list who's on Yahoo or the addresses it now serves who were affected.
>
> To that end, if it was because somebody reported this as spam, please
> don't do that - the side effect is that people who *do* want this find
> themselves not getting this.  It's worth noting that, one way or
> another, you (the reader) had subscribed to this list at some point
> in time over the past 20+ years this list has existed - it's a pretty
> manual process, and somebody at the subscribing email address must
> confirm that they did so by replying to a message following the
> subscribe request.  (This has, in fact, been true for as long as I
> remember through the various address changes I've gone through.  Even
> when legacy addresses were brought in over here twelve years ago, it
> was a list of addresses from anifics that was given to me.) So if you've
> forgotten that you have subscribed in the past, then that's alright, it
> happens - I do the same thing once in a while. But please, if you don't
> want to be on this list, just unsubscribe - either through the web UI or
> through an email to ffml-unsubscribe at chez-vrolet.net (please, not to
> the list itself) - and expect to reply to the confirmation if you do so
> through email.  To note, I will never sell your email address because
> spammers disgust me as well.
>
> If you have questions, comments, complaints, or anything else so
> related, please ensure that the reply is sent directly to me
> (dennisthetiger at chez-vrolet.net) or is sent to ffml-admins.
>
> Thanks,
> -Dennis
> (First human of Chez Vrolet Secret Labs, a keeper of the older
> technology, support engineer of enterprise grade networks, fan of
> dragons, lover of kitty cats, amateur Flemish painter, and irregular
> customer of Starbucks who wishes his local espresso stand would sell
> him a regular cup of black coffee)
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