[FFML] The mailing list active!!!!!! shocking....

[Alexander CHEEZEM]

I should add that the *current* platform fails these criteria for at least some of us due to the formatting thing. Fiction postings are pretty much illegible to me on the list due to the loss of paragraphing and "chunk of text-itis."


This is, bluntly, annoying.


If I can't read it, I can't comment on it. Even if I can read the chapter elsewhere, I can't really do line-by-line commentary on the list post because, well, I'm not getting the lines... and frequent tab-switching for commentary purposes is annoying at best.

 

 That makes it rather hard to use the list for fiction commentary... which I do really regret. It is, after all, a large part of the list's intended purpose.



-- Aleh

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Kleppe <gary at garykleppe.org>
To: ffml <ffml at chez-vrolet.net>
Sent: Mon, Oct 15, 2018 11:21 am
Subject: Re: [FFML] The mailing list active!!!!!! shocking....

On the subject of moving the list to a different platform, I wouldn't  necessarily be opposed to it. But that platform would have to suit the  particular needs of our community. Particularly, in my opinion:1) It would need to support a line-by-line response to a story, in a  way that's reasonably convenient. The web forum interface used by  fanfiction.net (among other sites) fails this test. That site is made  to facilitate "Woooo! That was great!" comments, not detailed analysis.2) It should be reasonably portable, so if it turns out that the  current host is abusing people's information or is just not technically competent enough to keep the thing operational, we could  move it somewhere else.3) It should be advertising-free. People buying ads on a fanfiction  site are using the characters to make money, which should be the  province of the authors and copyright holders. (Remember that I did  say that all of this was my opinion.)If anyone has ideas on something that would fit these criteria, I'd be  interested in hearing it.That said, I have to say frankly that if you think that a platform  change would revitalize the list, color me skeptical. In my view, our  problems are meatware, not software. If you want to see the list  become active again, here's how you can make it happen: (1) Go into  the list archives (http://www.chez-vrolet.net/pipermail/ffml/) or your  own saved emails, and find a story that interests you enough to read  it. (2) Read it. (3) Write down your thoughts on the story and post to  the list, or send them privately to the author. (4) Rinse, repeat as  often as you can. There are two writers who've already posted in this  thread lamenting that they would've liked more feedback on their  recent stories. I'll add myself as a third, having posted a story back  in April/May that got no response on the list and only a handful of  private ones. If y'all are not willing to respond to stories from the  email list, I can't fathom why anyone should expect it to be any  different on a web-based platform.On the other hand, I think going onto social media and such to set up  secondary platforms which can spread information about what the FFML is and how to join it would be worthwhile. If someone wants to take  that on, please write to the admins ffml-admins at chez-vrolet.net to  discuss possible venues.         .-------Anime/Manga Fanfiction Mailing List--------.        |   Administrators - ffml-admins at chez-vrolet.net   |         |   Unsubscribing - ffml-request at chez-vrolet.net   |         |         Put 'unsubscribe' in the subject         |         `----- FAQ http://chez-vrolet.net/ffml/faq.txt ----'
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