[FFML] Old archives question

Andrew Painter a_painter at mac.com
Tue Sep 29 11:34:37 PDT 2015


Hi,

Yep the dates were due to the incorrect date/time on the original 
maillist server.

Hence the issue with the date/time on the forum, it uses the date/time 
field from the original emails as its 'post' date for the forum posts.

Glad some of you will find the index helpful, I've ran it for several 
years, it may be a bit slow at times but its fairly stable and I back up 
the 30 odd gig Maria SQL database backend on it every 2 days so should 
it die I can recover it easily.

It also pulls several News groups relating to Anime/Manga too. So if its 
missing a news group you guys would like, I can add it to the site 
pretty easily if needed.

The same if there's another mailing list you want added to it.

Andy

On 27/09/2015 07:33, William Lathan wrote:
> I noticed something strange while going through it.  Some of the posts have
> very old dates on them, with the oldest being 1970.  Is this some sort of
> error in parsing the archive data?  I have noticed the these older posts
> don't seem to make much sense chronologically, while posts with the year of
> 1995 tend to be organized more correctly (i.e., mostly "testing" messages.)
>
> On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Andrew Painter <a_painter at mac.com> wrote:
>
>> I have a searchable index of the FFML archive, over at www.sanjiyan.co.uk
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>> On 25/09/2015 10:30, Ignacio Moreno wrote:
>>
>>> Well.
>>>
>>> My idea was to look over all the old archives, extract all the fics, check
>>> if they are online yet and, if not, ask permission to the author to post
>>> them in ff and ao3 so we can conserve them in the same place.
>>>
>>> So, if anybody have any part of old stories, I would be glad if you can
>>> send it to me.
>>>
>>> It's going to be a long effort, but I think that it is needed and worth to
>>> make it.
>>>
>>> Greetings.
>>>
>>> Kinai.
>>> El 25/9/2015 15:59, "The Wanderer" <wanderer at fastmail.fm> escribió:
>>>
>>> On 2015-09-24 at 19:17, Bob Schroeck wrote:
>>>> Mike Schilling wrote:
>>>>> A question for the old-timers: I think I remember a server crash
>>>>>> several years back, and now it seems that the archives online only
>>>>>> go back to mid-2007. Is that right, or are there older records
>>>>>> kicking around somewhere I can't find? (Trying to re-read a few old
>>>>>> Ranma fics that, if I remember right, were posted in the 1998-2000
>>>>>> range. It's not that long ago, right? Really?)
>>>>>>
>>>>> As usual these days, I'm slow on the uptake with the ML, so I'm just
>>>>> going to reply to the first message in the thread rather than find an
>>>>> appropriate one later in the cascade that followed.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have about 200 Mb of fanfic, mixed plaintext and zip archives,
>>>>> dating back at least to 1996 (at least that was the earliest I
>>>>> spotted in an admittedly hasty look-thru), fairly complete up to
>>>>> about 2007 and kind of random after that.  I even have most of it
>>>>> organized by fandom and story (I had much more free time on my hands
>>>>> about ten years ago).  It probably isn't a complete archive of the
>>>>> FFML -- as I recall I only saved stuff that caught my interest -- but
>>>>> I'd be willing to package it up for anyone who wanted it, or dig
>>>>> through it to see if I have missing parts of stories for people who
>>>>> need them.
>>>>>
>>>> I have virtually every message that has come through the FFML since its
>>>> June 17th, 2001 revival; about the only exceptions are duplicates and
>>>> spam. (I don't usually delete E-mail, pretty much at all.) It totals
>>>> something like 400MB - possibly including the results of compression -
>>>> though a _lot_ of that is probably replies rather than actual fic.
>>>>
>>>> It's in the form of a set of subfolders under a Thunderbird mail
>>>> profile, so it's not ideally suitable for extracting and making
>>>> available en masse - but if someone wants a particular story that came
>>>> through the FFML in that timeframe and can provide enough information
>>>> for me to track it down in that archive, I'd probably be willing to send
>>>> it along.
>>>>
>>>> For that matter, if someone knows of a sufficiently practical way of
>>>> pulling those folders out into a shareable form, I might be willing to
>>>> do that as well. (As a one-time hand-off, not as a permanent thing; I
>>>> don't have the project capacity to set up or maintain a long-term share.)
>>>>
>>>> I also have the PMFFML from May through July of 2001, from when I
>>>> subscribed there before the June revival, and Sofaspud's Couch from
>>>> April 2001 through February 2005 (which may be when that list expired);
>>>> the same applies there.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>      The Wanderer
>>>>
>>>> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
>>>> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
>>>> progress depends on the unreasonable man.         -- George Bernard Shaw
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