[FFML] [Fic][Ranma][Pokewomen][Crossover][Dark][Lemon]No Turning Back Prologue 1
David Nolen
kthardin at tenchifanart.com
Tue Sep 2 19:59:05 PDT 2008
And here's one for reading comprehension.
Farzad Mansouri wrote:
> Okay let me get this straight an idea started by
> meshing Pokemon with the real world, which includes
> "The Jusenkyo Spell Dump" as a primer for the setting,
> and has MEGUMI that seems a blatant ripoff of the
> goddesses from 'Ah megami-sama' CAN'T include other
> anime? Mr. Nolen please lets be honest here. This
> whole setting of Pokegirls is a mish-mash of several
> animated features put together for the purpose of
> entertainment. Which means logically other sources of
I will reitterate what I wrote:
So, I tend to roll my eyes whenever I see yet another pokegirl fic that
includes yet another anime or another set of anime girls in a harem when
the whole thing is ripe for branching out in more imaginative ways
rather than trying to rewrite "Wild Horses and Pokegirls," which started
this whole mess, and should have had its innate flaws abandoned at first
opportunity when it became something far more.
Now, if you're respectfully disagreeing with this viewpoint, I'm more
than fine with that. If that's all the potential or even USE that you
see for these stories...okay. I fundamentally disagree. As such, we'll
never agree on this, and I'm okay with that. I simply find that the
idea could have been more than what I already noted it to be and you
deemed necessary to remind me of since you must not have figured I
already knew what I had already typed.
I hope that last sentence made sense despite its convoluted nature.
Since this is a forum for feedback, and I don't know this author
personally to provide it in the fashion that I typically do, I posted
the response here.
> anime and manga could be included here with reasonable
> effort. And that is what Shade has done hes added
My point was, it didn't have to include those sources at all. The idea
of a man (argueably a madman) creating an army of animorphic girls to
first annhilate the lion's share of humanity, then breed with those
strong enough or lucky enough to survive such horror to create a race
of...well...gods is a fantasic (not fantastic as in good, fantastic as
in outlandish or expansive...just so we're clear on the meaning of
words) premise all on its own. Many questions (some bad, some good,
some that don't even have those qualifications) come to mind concerning
such a world.
> things and taken away things to create something that
> has the potential for something different. Which is
> what your next comment is all about:
>
> > You showed that you have this
> > capacity with the
> > rewriting of the Sukebe mythos, as well as boys from
> > Berkley, and I
> > found their adventures far more interesting than
> > those of the Ranma
> > gang.
>
> And that is something I agree on at the end of
> prologue 4 I was rooting for Greg, his room mate, and
> Bee-girl. I wanted to know what happened to them and
> the fact that the author skipped out on this in his
> fifth installment made me realize that Shade had made
> me care about these fictional characters. Which as an
Agreed. Very much agreed.
> author is a major accomplishment. Now what I hope Mr.
> Shade does is avoid the whole 'sex-slave' issue I have
> with Pokegirls and try more for like
> 'partners/companions/best friends forever' but that is
> a my on bit of wish fulfillment there.
I hope he doesn't. It wasn't a premise that was supposed to be right or
moral. It was supposed to be rather messed up. Sukebe fucked the world
a right good one, and people had to live in it. Questions such as what
form that world would take, and how the people would survive such a
situation (and make no mistake, survival tends to trump damn near
everything)...that's what makes the story.
> Ah have you and I been watching the same main stream
> media Mr. Nolen cause last I checked there were some
> Christian religious figures *cough*700 club*cough*
> that publicly stated that America DESERVED 9/11
> because of tolerance of homosexuals and other sins.
Yeah, up there with the Code Pink, Greenpeace, liberal college
professors, and the like who say the same thing just for a different
reason. Fanatics are on all sides of the fence...funny they tend to all
say the same thing just in new and exiting (and strangely enough, often
contradictory) ways.
> And if you take a look except for Fox news (fair and
> balanced my rump) most mainstream media tries to have
Yeah, up there with ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, The Washington Post, The New
York Times, and the LA Times. And all of them are bitching about that
dork Rush Limbaugh on AM Radio with a, heh, fairness doctrine.
> no bias. That is the whole ideal of journalism. To
> report the truth no matter what and yes that ideal is
> not often meet because we are fallible beings. But we
> try and that is the whole point but I'm ranting so I
> apologize. Sufficed to say Mr. Shades is just
> expressing his views (right or wrong) in a work of
> fiction that was meant to entertain. For my own two
I didn't find it entertaining. I found it, like I said, to be neo
progressive far leftwing politics piece that turned everyone in the
armed forces into a raving rapist lunatics of zero intelligence and even
less moral gravitas (I hope I used that word 'gravitas' correctly).
Then there was the worst charictures shown of the neo cons which,
hillariously enough, can be applied to the adherents of the Marxist and
socialist philosophies (both of which the leftwing models itself after)
in exactly the same way, and be just as accurate was what we saw written
here.
It's why I don't read Piers Anthony anymore. He tends to slap his
audience with his politcal view points every three sentences. I want to
reach back and slap him, telling him to get on with the story...I
finally just put his stuff down and refuse to read more. I may have to
do that here; I don't know. I figured I'd weigh in, since this was the
place to do so...note that I found the view point so permeating in the
fic that it was barely readable because of it.
> cents Mr. Nolen, no my college professors did not
> preach 'death to whitie. They just taught me to look
> at the facts and make up my own mind. I looked at
Good to hear not everyone is not so enmeshed in spreading white male
guilt around to the point that we all just want to shoot ourselves.
> history and seen that while the white male does have a
> leg up in the world he like the rest of us is only
> human and at the end of the day we are all capable of
> great good and great evil no matter what our profiles
> are.
I'm okay with that. As long as that's all the message is, heh.
> Peace and long life to us all.
Live long and prosper. Hopefully we'll have a world in which we can all
do that.
K'thardin
"We are spoiled for choice, but one: Cybertronian by birth...Decepticon
by choice."
-Megatron
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