David Andersson wrote:

 > --- DB Sommer <sommert@connecttime.net> wrote:
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > for the occasion. All of the big gatherings were held
 > there. No press was allowed, as some of the tactics
 > the ALF had employed were technically illegal, if
 > morally right.
 > Of course they’d get much better effects if they
 > simply legally lobbied for stricter laws against
 > unnecessary amounts of animal testing than releasing 1
 > thousandth of a percent into a wild habitat the
 > animals had never had time to adapt naturally for. :D
 >
 >

Some people actual results are what counts. In any event, Man Beast will 
be changing operations somewhat in the near future.

 >
 >
 >> Luckily only minimal property damage had been
 >>
 >
 > inflicted during most of the rescue operations, and
 > since the leadership had been adamant about *not*
 > publicly claming responsibility for their actions
 >
 > Which either makes them pragmatic or genuine.
 >
 >

% A bit of both.

 >
 >
 >> they had managed to fly under the radar for the most
 >>
 >
 > part. Though there was a segment of the leadership,
 > led by Shinjiro Hikami, who wanted a more public image
 > for their heroic deeds.
 >
 > Foreshadowing for involvement with Arioshi or just a
 > footnote?
 >
 >

% Footnote. Overrider is responsible for the influx of cash. More on 
that later.

 >
 >
 >> Still, few complained about the current leader,
 >>
 >
 > founder Itsuki Mikura.
 > It may be an idea to run a short roll call the end of
 > each chapter, describing from which animes you’ve
 > plucked some of the new or long-absent characters, so
 > readers can keep track of if they’re unique to the
 > story or not.
 >
 >

% The Handbook has that. I should post the updated version of it now 
that Act II is done. If they aren't in there, they're almost certainly 
originals.

 >
 >
 >> A rescue operation, headed by Yakumo Matsui, had
 >>
 >
 > great success in liberating what might very well be
 > the greatest rescue of animals to date. Sadly, he
 > could not be with us today, his fate unknown.
 > He’s sitting in a tree eating bananas, throwing poo
 > and plucking fleas from his back… Speaking of which,
 > I had the impression that the KOW only planned to keep
 > him in that state for a few days at most. They seemed
 > too civilised to let him stay devolved on indefinite
 > time. Has he stayed in Wundagore to support the HE
 > afterwards?
 >
 >

% He's been a bt traumatized by everything. And one thing the HE was 
infamous for was not using humans to help him outside of his very 
earliest days. There was a guy that claimed he worked for him, a 
knockoff called the High Technition, that was never validated.

 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > panese. In a firm, yet gentle voice, he said, “I
 > am the Man Beast, an innocent wolf changed into human
 > form unwillingly by a truly evil being who refers to
 > himself as the High Evolutionary. I find myself a
 > strange creature in a strange land, at least from my
 > perspective. An individual of both the world of nature
 > and the world of man, but truly belonging in neither.
 > Torn in two directions, not knowing which way to go.
 >
 > Playing on the appropriate emotional strings as
 > always.
 >
 >

% Yep. He talks good, telling people what they want to hear. As a 
general rule, MB preferred using minions and manipulations to personal 
confrontation, though he wasn't above getting down and dirty when the 
situation called for it.

 >
 >
 >> “Yes, my friends, let today mark the dawn of a new
 >>
 >
 > beginning of the ALF. You can count on me to
 > personally spearhead the effort to release all those
 > who have suffered as I have at the hands of cruel,
 > inhuman monsters.
 > Including incarcerated super-criminals? ;)
 >
 >

% No. He wants one already in the movement, though he'll be relying on 
the Ani Men more than anything.

 >
 >
 >> The crowd roared in approval, reenergized and
 >>
 >
 > sounding like they were ready to march on the enemy
 > then and there.
 > Does he possess large-scale emotion-manipulating
 > abilities like the other Hate-Mongers?
 >
 >

% No. He does have the ability to use insidiously powerful mental 
blasts, though they are physical in nature.

 >
 >
 >> Tabur held his hand to his chin in thought. “Oh,
 >>
 >
 > that makes sense. Yes, I suppose all the animals would
 > be emancipated then, wouldn’t they?”
 >
 > With all the humans dead? Of course.
 >
 >

% We'll see later when he tells the reader of his scheme. :)

 >
 >
 >
 > Something else is going on there. If you’re not
 > careful, your balls might end up in a mousetrap. And
 > if you screw things up for me with your lust,
 > remember, I can rip your throat out as easily as I did
 > him.” He pointed at the body.
 >
 > An upcoming Man-Beast/Phantom Cats alliance? They’re
 > both striving for human eradication and MB (good
 > corporate director initials if you wish to use them)
 > would welcome to rule an army which already possess
 > militant, ruthless mindsets reminiscent of his own.
 >
 >

% Again that will be coming up in the future chapters. Not the next one, 
which involves the Avengers not present here, but the ones after that,

 >
 >
 >
 > the edge of madness. “Oh yes, the times are
 > changing, as you’re about to find out, you aberrant
 > sacks of flesh. You’ll get what’s coming to you
 > for trying to jump the evolutionary chain ahead of
 > me.”
 >
 > I don’t remember if he had such a complex original
 > motivation or if he simply had in-born animalistic
 > sadistic bloodlust (which he didn’t evolve beyond
 > like the other animals due to an unstable isotope) and
 > enjoyed killing and torturing people? In any case
 > it’s a good idea to expand a little in the
 > explanation here for reader perspective. Perhaps
 > highlighting that he, being a wolf, views himself as
 > _the_ apex predator in nature and would get incredibly
 > insulted by the notion that any species could stand
 > above him without strictly basing society on sheer
 > bloodthirsty medieval social-Darwinism. Especially not
 > a bunch of physically and emotionally ‘weak’
 > omnivores who should be rightful easy prey for a
 > predator of his standing.
 >
 > Perhaps something in the spirit of:
 >
 > “Oh yes, the times are changing, as you’re about
 > to find out, you tasty litters of cowering prey.
 > You’ll get what’s coming to you for trying to get
 > ahead of a true predator in the evolutionary food
 > chain.”
 >
 >

% In this universe MB's motivations are slightly different (though he's 
still insane and damn near a personification of evil as you can get). 
I'll go ahead and say it now since he'll be saying it at some point in 
the future chapters, but basically the HE discovered that humanity was 
given a evolutionary boost by the Celestials. MB also discovered this 
which is why he refers to them as genetic aberations.

% The opening of Act IV will reveal what happened to the Eternals and 
Youma, who were also created at the same time.

 >
 > blackouts were a fairly recent occurrence. Curiously,
 > finding himself in strange locales was not. Evidently
 > he was as directionally challenged as his emerald
 > alter-ego.
 >
 > Tofu could play the role of Doc Samson to hypnotise
 > the very similar personalities into merging.
 > An amusing counter to Banner’s and his alter ego’s
 > mutual antagonism would be if Ryouga and Hulk met up
 > on an astral plane and immediately became best
 > friends. :D
 >
 >

% Heh.

 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >> Reed Richards was off in some other dimension with
 >>
 >
 > the Challengers of the Fantastic
 >
 > Heh. A semi-DC/Amalgam crossover? Will more DC-related
 > characters show up?
 >
 >

% Nah. This is the same team from 'What if the FF had no Super Powers' 
with a different name, which predated the Amalgam xover.

 >
 >
 >> Seeing he had an audience, Ryouga unburdened himself.
 >>
 >
 > “It was three years ago that a backstabbing jerk
 > named Ranma Saotome backstabbed me.”
 >
 > Heh.
 >
 >

% And yes, the repetition there was deliberate.

 >
 >
 >
 > for a week straight, leaving me with nothing to eat.
 > Yup. What most of the more condemning people forget is
 > that Ryouga’s direction sense really made it a
 > severe problem for him, since he’d be starving
 > without available recurrent meals. Of course, while
 > Ranma knew about his handicap, he probably didn’t
 > think that far.
 >
 >

% No. Ranma's not all that forward planning, and at that age, not that 
bright either.

 >
 >
 >> “He offered to share it with me.”
 >>
 >
 >
 > I think canon Ryouga would have been somewhat pacified
 > by a sincere apology of this sort.
 >
 >

% It's coming.

 >
 >
 >> Ryouga’s nostrils flared in anger. “He
 >>
 >
 > apologized, saying it was the responsibility of the
 > strong to help the weak.
 > And what narrow definition does he use to define
 > strength?


% Back then, physical. He was being taught by Genma. But it mostly 
consisted of 'the strong help the weak and don't take from them even if 
it would be easier.' kind of thing.

 > There are plenty of paths and mindsets and
 > burdens, which take different types of great strength
 > to shoulder. For example, contrary to popular notions,
 > it takes far less strength to dehumanise and numb
 > oneself than growing enough of a backbone to maintain
 > empathy and conscience. Calling someone inferior and
 > useless to his or her face like this is incredibly
 > insulting… but hardly enough of a reason for a
 > vendetta.
 >

% Oh no, there's more.

 >
 >
 >
 >
 > arely able to move his arm. He said I was the only
 > guy his age that had ever made him work so hard for an
 > arm wrestling match. When he found out I knew martial
 > arts, he suggested we become friends. Then we could
 > spar and stuff like that.”
 >
 > So you already considered the above aspects. Good for
 > you. :)
 >
 >

% Yep.

 >
 >
 >> “Well, I couldn’t let these guys pick on her. So
 >>
 >
 > I walked over and told them to knock it off. Then they
 > called me a mutie-lover and tried to beat me up. I
 > tossed them aside without even working up a sweat.
 > Like most bullies that get stood up to, they were
 > cowards at heart. They started bawling their eyes out
 > and ran off.
 >
 > Hmm. I recall that you implied to use randomly
 > magical-powered individuals or something similar in
 > place of the mutant term with Xavier heading Gakuen
 > Academy (name?).


% Nononononono. Mutants most definitely exist as mutants here. In fact 
that's a major plot point later on in this arc. Wolverine and Sabertooth 
were already mentioned (and dead) as proof of canon mutants. The 
renaming of some as 'Alice's was to mute the negativity behind the name.


 >
 >
 >
 > “He tricked me with his superior height and
 >
 >
 > strength!” Ryouga shouted. “Worse, the next day,
 > he lied to everyone claiming I was the bully, dirtying
 > my name. Everybody treated me like I was a leper or
 > something. So I challenged Ranma to a duel to get my
 > revenge for tricking me and dragging my name through
 > the mud. Only the jerk didn’t show up for it. I
 > waited two days and he never showed.”
 >
 > That’s actually a pretty inventive solution to the
 > origins of the feud. Severely dirtying Ryouga’s
 > reputation for something he didn’t do through a
 > misunderstanding would do it.
 >
 >

% Yeah. For all the changes in Ranma, history happened largely the same 
way anyhow.

 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >> “I knew it,” Iron Rose mumbled.
 >>
 >
 >
 > On the other hand it’s not like Ranma or most others
 > wouldn’t know that Ryouga has brain damage in that
 > area, so it’s hardly unexpected or something he
 > could help.
 >
 >

% Heh

 >
 >
 >
 > �I traveled all around Japan, and even China,
 > searching for him. It was there that something…
 > horrible happened to me.”
 >
 > Constantly living in fear of being turned to lunch by
 > any passing stranger or animal coupled with always
 > being lost away from home, school, friends and any
 > luxuries of civilisation makes Ryouga the most
 > miserable character in the entire series. It’s hard
 > not to feel sorry for him.
 >
 >

% True

 >
 >
 >
 >> “In any case, I’m seeking revenge on Ranma for
 >>
 >
 > all the wrongs he did to me.”
 >
 > Well, he didn’t get you cursed here, so it’s not
 > like he did something truly unforgivable.
 >
 >

% I don't think Ryouga was aware of it until later. It was just one more 
thing added to the list when he found out..

 >
 >
 >
 > change back and forth. What if you were to change in
 > the middle of a fight? Why, Ranma would end up a big
 > red splotch, and we’d have to arrest you ourselves
 > for murder, and we wouldn’t want to do that to a
 > teammate.”
 >
 > They handle Ryouga perfectly. Much like the Hulk
 > he’s a nice guy at heart, but you have to explain
 > things slowly and calmly for his benefit. ;)
 >
 >

% And in deference, Ryouga's only now learning of his emerald alter ego. 
And he's not all that worked up about changing. I should have mentioned 
again that turning into the Hulk actually ends up draining a lot of his 
anger in his normal body. Changing is actually theraputic for Ryouga. I 
implied it in the 'What's for dinner chapter in Act II. I'll have to 
mention it again to remind the reader.

 >
 >
 >> “Body language, which is just as good and nowhere
 >>
 >
 > near as invasive. Mind reading is a gray area when it
 > comes to the law,” Daredevil said.
 >
 > Daredevil consistently uses gaps in heartbeat to
 > determine lies.
 >
 >

Yeah, I remember pacemakers can throw him as well as compulsive liars.

 >
 >
 >> “Someone stole my set of mechanical arms. A nutcase
 >>
 >
 > that named himself, ‘Dr. Octopus’. I believe he
 > was Japanese, actually. He evidently read an article
 > about the arms, thought they would be a wonderful
 > addition to his villainous repertoire, and decided to
 > steal them from me. He hit me in the face with a
 > pastry, and while I was blinded by a tasty cream
 > filling, he put them on and fled with them.”
 >
 > Nice with a Defending reference. Have you heard any
 > words of its current status?
 >
 >

% Thanks. And no, I haven't. I should get back to him as I was enjoying 
the story.

% I should also note the only thing I have to do with Defending is 
okaying the use of characters. Plot and characterizations are all 
David's doing. I get a little jealous sometimes because of hsi writing, 
which at times I find better than mine.

 >
 >
 >> However, the fact he is still alive and with no
 >>
 >
 > visible affects from his exposure seems to bare out a
 > theory several gamma theorists, such as myself, have
 > postulated, but had no way of testing.
 >
 > Better make that ‘radiation theorists’.
 > ‘Theorists limited to a particular wavelength
 > spectra of light’ sounds pretty silly, comic book or
 > no.
 >
 >

% Heh

 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >> The surrender would be coming soon, once the real
 >>
 >
 > bombs dropped. Even that knowledge didn’t affect
 > him. Despite being in the Japan of the past, he felt
 > no surge of patriotism or sense of loss over what was
 > to come.
 > So he’s Japanese at least? Then again you could have
 > turned an alien like Kagato Japanese for all I know,
 > so it’s not much of a clue. :D
 >
 >

% No, I didn't. He's a Japanese native in anime canon. Still not saying 
who he is. That's a long time coming.

 >
 >
 >> All that mattered was saving his love in *his* past,
 >>
 >
 > so that he could have a future. He’d personally drop
 > the bombs himself to prevent the Tragedy. He’d
 > sacrifice anyone, everyone, if it meant saving her.
 >
 > Wait a minute… I remember skimming an introduction
 > text to an anime show based on this premise a while
 > back. A schoolboy skipping back and forth in time over
 > the summer break to prevent his girlfriend from dying
 > I believe.
 >

% I read a blurb for it. But it was only 2 or 3 eps long, and reviews 
for it said it was just done way too quickly and not that good, so I 
skipped it.

% Not like I have any shortage of things to watch, just little time to 
do it I'm finally finishing up Trinity Blood, which I had laying around 
for over a year and at last got around to watching the last few weeks.

 > Definitely not my type of show, so I never
 > took much notice and definitely didn’t watch it, but
 > could he be Kang’s new identity? After all, given
 > that Ariyoshi wasn’t a villain in her original
 > setting, you seem to play a bit loose with character
 > roles. He could be based on a good guy.
 >
 >

% I am playing a little loose, but not in some ways either. I'll 
eventually build up to his identity as he becomes more panicked as time 
begins to run out. Right now he still has lots of breathing room to 
change things the way he wants.


 >
 >
 >> And the seeds for their destruction would be planted
 >>
 >
 > now. He had checked the timeline furiously. Removal of
 > them at the juncture he would travel to changed
 > nothing of Kang’s own past. She would live, he would
 > be who he was, and all would be well.
 >
 > Can he change his own previous timeline without a
 > major paradox preventing it? I don’t think Marvel
 > rules allow it except though higher-dimensional
 > interference. Though I’ve heard that certain
 > mathematicians theorise that a person can exist
 > without a past.
 >

% He thinks he can. In any event he's basically only trying to prevent 
one event in such a way as to not negate his existance as Kang. 
Everything else can go to hell as far as he's concerned. Of course, that 
might be a problem itself as well

 >
 >
 >
 >
 >> Of course, he was shared with the Germans and
 >>
 >
 > Italians too, but that was inevitable, given the
 > contributions all had made before Agent Axis’
 > creation.
 > Damn, you’re getting really obscure here. I read an
 > issue of Invaders where he was the central hive
 > intelligence for an army of cloned superhuman chock
 > troops, but otherwise have virtually no recall of him.
 >
 >

% In the original Invaders series? It's been so long I've forgotten 
those. If it was in the updated version of them, I skipped it due to bad 
artwork.

 >
 >
 >> Now he was an amalgamate of the best spy from each
 >>
 >
 > country, thanks to a freak accident. He had the
 > strength, agility, and intelligence of all three, and
 > his skills in espionage were unparalleled on the
 > planet.
 > That is a pretty cool premise I’ll admit. Though as
 > far as nazi-themed villains go I prefer Baron Strucker
 > and the original Master Man & Warrior Woman.
 >
 >

% He was incredibly generic in appearance, and the only time i recall 
him being seen outside of WWII was when the Thin Man killed him in the 
modern era in Marvel Comics Presents.

% As to MM and WW, I'm thinking they probably didn't exist here. One 
complication that came about due to Steve Rogers not getting the Super 
Soldier formula was that a lot of other people didn't try to put 
everything they could into their own SS programs since they didn't know 
if it could be done. In the canon universe, Captain America was living 
proof it could succeed, so everyone tried making their own, which is how 
there was MM, WW, the 50's Cap, Victorious, the version that helped 
create the Man Thing, the man named 'X' (from Power Man), etc, etc. :)

 >
 >
 >> On
 >>
 > suo. “Sorry about that. Sometimes I’m of three
 > minds on matters. Luckily majority rules, and all of
 > us are quite rational.” He handed Kang a small metal
 > box with a single button and a mesh, like on a
 > walkie-talkie. “Push that and the robot activates.
 > Sleeper? Tough, but not Sentinel level.
 >
 >

Nowhere near it. Actually, they were all pretty cheesy. One of them was 
just a big bomb in the shape of the Red Skull's head. ^_^

 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >> He pushed the button and said to the speaker,
 >>
 >
 > “Activate and kill everyone in the building above
 > you.”
 >
 > Smooth idea for a set-up. :)
 >
 >

% Thanks.

 > However transporting Kang in space as well as time
 > without any explanation to how the robots were hidden
 > below Kuno Manor destroys a bit of it.
 >
% I thought I set it up well. Kang has always been able to teleport 
anywhere as well as time travel. And the Kunou mentioned in the past is 
obviously an ancestor of Kodachi's, and burying it is mentioned.The 
location of Avenger's Mansion and who owns it is public knowledge, as 
evidenced by all the super villains that have been captured there, as I 
mentioned in the Hercules chapter. Not sure what was missing.


 >
 >> Fifty meters beneath the earth, entombed in a
 >>
 >
 > concrete chamber with no way out, surrounded on all
 > sides by tons of earth, the Fourth Sleeper activated.
 > It processed its orders and raised its head up toward
 > the surface.
 >
 > Just _one_ Sleeper!? That’s not nearly enough to
 > handle Hulk & Thor and I don’t think Kang would be
 > foolish enough to make such an uncertain gamble. Bury
 > at least 8 of them to be on the safe side.
 >
 >

% There was only one 4th Sleeper. It was only dangerous in that it could 
trigger miniture volcano anywhere, and could turn ethereal, like the 
Vision. He was pretty sure with surprise he could kill, if not all of 
them, at least some.

% Actually the original version I was going to come up with was more 
comedic in nature. Agent Axis kidnapped Howard Stark, who created the 
much more dangerous Arsenal robot, which had been buried in the canon 
version of Avengers Mansion. Only in this version Arsenal had no decent 
weapons due to insufficient money from the cost of the war, had to dig 
its way out of its chamber, which collapsed upon him due to substandard 
materials, and was basically nearly destroyed by the time it emerged in 
the Ranmaverse Avengers mansion. I think this worked out better, though.


 >
 >
 >> It was a doomsday device created in a freak accident
 >>
 >
 > by scientists of the Third Reich in the waning days of
 > the war. Its method of destruction was simple. It had
 > the ability to combust any material known to man.
 > Well, it’s not nuclear fire and thus not nearly
 > enough to bother the Hulk. Mjolnir/Mjölner should
 > protect Thor as well. Good trap othervise. There’s a
 > difference between straight battle and an unexpected
 > raid after all and Hulk&Thor don’t constitute a team
 > by themselves (and thus presumably won’t cause the
 > accident Kang worries about).
 >
 >

% Yep. Good call.

 >
 >
 >> Ryouga didn’t like robots. He didn’t know why. He
 >>
 >
 > just didn’t. In fact they bothered him almost as
 > much as Ranma. He didn’t care for hills lately
 > either, and he didn’t know the cause of that either.
 > Just that they made him uneasy, no matter how serene
 > they might appear.
 >
 > Heh. That would explain a lot.
 >
 >

% The whole Spragg thing is just too wonderful to forget.

% In a way, I am sorry I haven't had the time/resources to keep up a lot 
of Marvel titles, as I saw a resurgence in the pre FF monster lately. A 
retcon with Ulysses Bloodstone (A decent characterthat should never had 
been killed, and miraculously stayed dead) and Doc Druid hunting some 
classic monsters way back when. Something with Fin Fang Foom, and a 
number of others.


 >> “Sorry,” Hulk said, then heard a thumping.
 >>
 >
 > Turning, he saw the Fourth Sleeper running at him.
 > Rather than becoming angry, the Hulk laughed and stood
 > his ground. “Stupid No-Neck Robot thinks Hulk will
 > fall for the same trick twice.”
 >
 > :D
 >
 >

% It's real sneaky though and tricks him again. ^_^

 >
 >
 >> The Hulk said, “Hulk will help take robot apart.
 >>
 >
 > Hulk is good at it.”
 >
 > Funny
 >
 >

% Thanks. Hulk dialogue lends itself to humor. He's like a big, eager 
child a lot fo the time, and kids do say the silliest things.

 >
 >
 >> Kang screamed in rage for an eternity that literally
 >>
 >
 > only lasted a second.
 >
 > Serves him right for only sending a single robot,
 > though unless it had malfunctioned everyone would have
 > died from the initial magma blast, so it wasn’t
 > entirely his fault.
 >
 >

% True. He'll go on the backburner again for a while as we focus on the 
main villains in this arc. The only other planned 'delay' is when the 
mysterious business woman gets fed up with the Avengers screwing up her 
schemes and hires a pair of assassins to kill them. That one will have 
long term effects on one of the characters as well. I neat twist I think 
people will enjoy.

 >
 >
 >
 >
 >> Oh? I didn't know it was. It was a play off the old
 >>
 >
 > 'Mutant Liberation Front' from the X-Titles.
 >
 > You could make a Youkai, Bakemono or Phantom Cat
 > liberation front instead. ;)
 >
 >

% Nah. They aren't run by them. More on the PC's shortly. They'll tie in 
to the Avegers fate on more than one front later.


 >
 >
 >> Nah. They were being tortured with soup.
 >>
 >
 >
 > Turned into soup you mean?
 >
 >

% No, the wonton cruelty was in the form of being tortured with soup. ^_^

 >
 >
 >> Could be. Some heroes are going to become their canon
 >>
 >
 > counterparts. Nova, for instance.
 >
 > So he becomes a big deal in America now that none of
 > the usual A-listers show up?
 >
 >

% Actually there will be a number of very familiar American heroes that 
will pop up eventually. But not until several acts from now.

% Actually Nova's always been underutalized, and Richard Rider's later 
character could have made for great reading, since he turned into a bit 
of a slacker horndog as he got older. Bad writing and then Erik Larsen 
messed up the two attempts to solo him again. I saw he has a new title 
out, but since it's only tied to an intersteller storyline, it'll be a 
short run.


 >
 >
 >> Also forgot to add Eliot Franklin (Thunderball of the
 >>
 >
 > Wrecking Crew) to the list. He was brilliant enough to
 > make miniature Gamma Bombs and was referred to as the
 > African American version of Bruce Banner.
 >
 > Low-level exoskeletons seemed to be his limit.
 >

% Only lately. Originally he was a pretty smart guy. In any case he'd be 
familiar enough to be mentioned with gamma energy, which was the 
criteria for the ones Octavius mentioned.

 >
 >
 >
 > % Plans are for Double A to have an impact in the
 > current timeline, though. So he's not a one shot
 > character.
 >
 > The remote-controlled spy army could have potential.
 >
 >

% No. He'll be seeking something to prolong his life again, as his aging 
was only cut by a third and he's starting to feel old.

 > % The other three had far different, less impressive
 > abilities (especially since it was only when all 3
 > combined that they were a doomsday weapon). They were
 > actually part of a different program from the 4th, and
 > were created by different, more conventional means.
 > The 4th was just given the label since its objective
 > was similar to the other three.
 > There was only 1 semi-powerful Sleeper robot? Oh well,
 > it was over 10 years since I read the profile.
 >
 >

% The other three consisted of an actual giant robot, a giant jet pack, 
and the Skull head shaped bomb. They combined into one big Doomsday 
Device. Kirby and Lee had fun with Cap back then.


 >
 >
 >> I messed around with its canon control as well. The
 >>
 >
 > original means of awakening it, and subsequently
 > defeating it, were... well, Sailor Moonish in nature.
 >
 > Pink big-eyed fuzzy animal perfumed love-bomber
 > strike! Or was it Dragon Man-style falling in love
 > with a beautiful girl who patted it on the head?
 >
 >

It was a crytsal transiever that responded to emotions. Sharon Carter 
had it in her hand and, when she became frightened that Cap was going to 
be killed by the 4th Sleeper (he was getting his ass royally kicked) the 
fear was transmitted to it and it weakened to the point it seemed to 
dissipate from its ethereal power. In later years it was revealed it was 
still whole, and the Red Skull retrieved it, though its volcano powers 
no longer worked.

% Heh. Looked over some of the old Caps since I needed to read how the 
4th Sleeper worked. Sharon Carter back then went between two extremes. 
Sometimes she was a damsel in distress, while other times she was a 
highly competent SHIELD agent that could be quite ruthless when it came 
to completing a mission. Now she's been modernized into a fairly 
unlikable bitch. Then again, Cap probably has the worst cast of love 
interests of any Marvel character due to blandness. Tony Stark probably 
had the best, and in Stark's case, he slept with damn near all of them. 
One thing Marvel did do with Tony was have him really be a playboy and 
end up in the sack with a lot of women.

% Thanks for the comments. They are greatly appreciated.

DB Sommer

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