Subject: [FFML] Re: [Fanfic][Naruto] Suiren, Chapter 4: Shadows...
From: Aaron Nowack
Date: 7/3/2006, 1:46 AM
To: Innocent Bystanders

Doing the multi-reply thing again...

eimii wrote:
Heh... i usually _hate_ original characters in fanfiction, since they 
often have the tendency of stealing the limelight from the existing 
characters (thus excising part of the reason that a lot of people read 
fanfiction: because they like the characters). 

Oh, I agree completely.  One of these days I'll come up with a story
that doesn't _require_ significant numbers of original characters to write.


Reminds me of her reaction to Zabuza back at the beginning of the series. 
Not sure whether it would fit in properly, but it might be worth
considering having her think that Naruto or Sasuke would be able to come
up with something, just like then. 
Just a thought. 

Maybe; maybe not. I've been trying not to clutter scenes with tension or action 
with _too_ much internal monologu, and since it's Sakura's POV, i have to try to
limit what is displayed to what Sakura would actually 'think,' unless i'm doing
some necessary exposition.

Yeah, you're probably right.  Like I said, just an idle thought.


In the case of Suiren, i will state simply that simple or elemental bunshin 
(Mizubinsin, etc.) can either be 'programmed' at creation to execute some
simple actions or actively manipulated by the creator. Kagebunshin, i will say, 
can probably be used similarly, except that they possess a much larger amount of 
'personality' and 'memory' than a simple bunshin or an elemental bunshin, allowing 
them a degree of autonomous action. The way Naruto learned the Kagebunshin limits 
him to the 'fire and forget' type of Kagebunshin, while Kakashi can probably control his 
actively. 

That's about what I came up with for 100 Days, though not so fully
thought out.

I basically have that some replications (ordinary and kage bunshin) have
some sort of sub-conscious connection with the user and can act more or
less independently, while others require conscious direction.

I have to imagine that the Yamanaka are very carefully prepared for their
first use of Shintenshin.  It's _got_ to be weird the first time you wind
up in somebody else's body. 

Indeed, though in the case of the Yamanaka, they can't 'reside' in two bodies 
at once, as far as we've seen.

Some form of that (though perhaps not as complete as Sakura's, as I
recall some hints later on in your stroy that Sakura is uniquely suited
to doing that sort of thing) seems a reasonable extrapolation of
Shintenshin and Shinranshin.

Anko really ought to probably be much more concerned about the whole
"missing time" thing. 

That issue specifically is addressed in a couple chapters ^_^...

Ah, yes.  I think I remember now.

There were lots of useful points raised, plus i always like to 
talk about how things work in the Naruto universe. You should read 
some of my tirades on the strengths and weakness of genjutsu in the 
author's notes of the chapters on FF.net ^_^;. 

I think I remember those.  :)

I've been trying to integrate some of my tirades into 100 Days, rather
than putting them separately.  Hence why I had my Kurenai expounding on
how a skilled genjutsu user can overcome doujutsu like the Sharingan and
Byakugan.

I _have_ noticed that a lot of little details that stuff that people point 
out to me are actually _not_ mistakes, but rather meant to seem out of place, 
so that they can be explained later. Just one of the perils of foreshadowing, i guess...

That's probably a good sign, I think.  :)


Eimii again:
I would disagree; i'd say that the reason Tsukiyomi would be considered
more effective is _not_ because it's instantaneous, as there are many
normal genjutsu that seem to take effect almost instantly. I would say
that it is considered more effective because it's nearly impossible to
break the Tsukiyomi without outside help. (Or, at least that's the
impression we're given...)

It's not that it takes effect instantly, it's that it takes effect and
runs to completion instantly (while taking much longer in subjective
time, so it can do much more than a normal instant genjutsu).
Post-timeskip, we're told explicitly by Kakashi that part of the reason
it is so dangerous is that outside help _can't_ be used to break out of
it, because there's no time for anyone else to react.  IIRC, of course.

At least, that's the canon anyway.  :)


Still Eimii:
I found the kanji used for 'dou' in 'doujutsu' by leafing through the
character databook. The kanji means the pupil of the eye, ergo
'doujutsu' most likely refers to techniques executed using the eyes.
(Thus, leafninja's definition is indeed correct ^_^;.) Doujutsu seems
to be just a group classification for eye techniques, and
theoretically a doujutsu would not need to be associated with specific
bloodline to be definied as such.

Phew.  All that talk about how the accepted fandom definition might be
wrong was making me nervous, since a fairly major plot point in the next
chapter of 100 Days would be pretty nonsensical if doujutsu meant
"techniques that require a bloodline to use." :)

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