----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gary Kleppe" <gary@garykleppe.org>
To: <ffml@anifics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 3:28 PM
Subject: [FFML] Re: About all these fic requests/searches...


SNIP

"I can see where this is going and I'm not interested" quite clearly
addresses a
fanfic. It may not be particularly helpful or necessary, mind you, but
neverthelsss it's within the bounds of free speech as defined above.
On the other hand, Don Granberry's comments (the ones that got him
tempbanned) were not about a fanfic, but rather about a personal beef
he had with DB. He could've disagreed with DB's comments as strongly
as he liked, but it's not okay to translate that into personal abuse
against the commenter, just as personal abuse against an author is not
okay.

IIRC, the blowup started with DB Sommers making a remark to the tune of 
Kenko being incapable as a writer for only writng Ranma/Akane fics - which, 
in mine and a lot of other people's books was an insult to his skill, albeit 
a mild one. DB had made similar pronouncements previously, and since he's an 
admin people were hesitant to disagree in public. Don Granberry had had 
enough, and wrote a scathing of-list reply to DB, which bounced due to 
profanity filters (it wasn't that bad, actually), which he mistook for 
having been personally blocked - so he blew his stack and posted the thing 
to the FFML. *That* of course was a blatant personal attack, and ban worthy.

The fact that Don made a mistaken assumption regarding the mail bounce does 
not excuse DB's insulting remarks about Kenko, though.

As to the ideas of moving FFML to a web-based forum and/or broadening
the categories of fanfiction that it deals with, I'll go along with
what the majority decides.

I don't, however, think that these steps are going to solve our
problems -- at least not by themselves.

Ultimately, we all get out of FFML what we all put into it. The list
thrived years ago primarily because many of us put in the work to make
that happen. My suggestion to anyone concerned about the lack of
quality traffic on the list is the same as it's always been: Pick a
story that's been on the list, and offer feedback on it. You don't
need any special insight. You certainly don't need to be an expert on
spelling and grammar -- this is just one of many aspects of a fanfic
that you can comment on. If you can just share your own reaction to
what you read, that'd be great, and you may find as you go that you
have a lot more to say than you thought you'd had.

I'll try to post some more C&C myself - it's just that most of the stuff 
being posted right now are chapters to series I never got into when they 
started, or that I dropped because they meandered too long. But I'll try.

SP 



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