Subject: [FFML] Re: Bad manners on ffml
From: Zorknot
Date: 7/31/2005, 6:11 PM
To: ffml@anifics.com


A bit late on this, but I found this a little
distressing as I've recently posted something on
fanfiction.net a day or two after sending it to the
ffml. 

The problem is that I, and I'm sure others here, do
not view fanfiction.net as the final resting place for
a finished fic. Perhaps when it wasn't as easy to edit
stories there it was, but now it's a relatively simple
matter of uploading the rewrite and updating the
information. Fanfiction is by nature a mutable
artform, unlike published writing where after
something is published it cannot be changed. The
upshot is that comments and criticisms can still be
helpful well after a fic is posted on ff.net. 

I post on ff.net mainly because I can expect to get
several short, general reviews there, where as here I
get maybe one really good c&c but that's it. The
quality of C&C is better on ffml usually, but there is
still something to be said for quantity. So I post at
ff.net and here for different reasons but in both
cases I hope to receive feedback. 

I too have been annoyed at people who seem to feel
their fic or chapter of a fic is done and that the
time for C&C is past. Yet I can understand that
someone may just want to call attention to a fic
they've done and don't want criticism that much, or
they may feel overwhelmed with a line by line critique
and may only want a general idea of what they need to
work on.

Maybe those people who don't want line by line
criticism could put a tag in the header. Like a minus
sign or something. And people who do want critiques
could put a plus sign. Then we'd give shorter, more
general reviews to those with a minus sign and more in
depth critiqes to those with plus signs.

Just a thought.

-Zorknot

(for some reason I can't help thinking of "buzz cuts
for da boys, bowl cuts for da girls" )

--- whimsy <fripon@earthlink.net> wrote:


McClown does raise a good point though..  More than
once I've seen 
works sent to the ffml but posted to ff.net well
before anyone had a 
chance to do any meaningful C&C, even if just
finding typos.  Although 
not in violation of the rules, I consider doing this
to be 
inconsiderate of the ffml readers who put time into
C&C without knowing 
that it is already pointless to do so.  Sending
something to the ffml 
is implicitly asking for C&C and I feel that authors
should not send 
works with no intention of allowing the readers to
respond before 
posting them to ff.net or other sites which unfairly
causes those 
readers who did respond to have wasted time better
spent reviewing 
works where the authors will at least do them the
courtesy of accepting 
C&C even if they won't use it.




http://www.geocities.com/zorukonotsu/fanfics.html
http://www.fanfiction.net/~zorknot

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