Much snippage ahead... must keep clean and readable.
[True enough. But the impression we are getting is that Akane
doesn't care
at all. And with Nabiki caring as much as she is, it comes as
extremely off.
Like I said, I'm not totally opposed to non-cannon pair ups.
But they
require more forethought and buildup, IMO.]
More will be shown later. And, all you're seeing is Akane
though _NABIKI_'s
eyes... and trust me, at times Akane does come off as uncaring.
We aren't shown that Nabiki didn't notice, we are shown that
Akane doesn't seem to care. A slight POV point.
And Nabiki is supposed to be the fairly attentive/smart sister.
[All I'll say in this is it is not being shown well, we are
just told.
Heck, Ranma even reacts to her response oddly.]
Perhaps she's just that good at hiding? Tatame and Honne. Or
to quote a
fanfic. "Where's the Real Nabiki?" "I left her in the closet
with the rest
of my clothes"
That's why I said that I don't have a problem with concept of
Nabiki caring, but execution/reasoning behind how it is shown.
The story takes a 180 degree deviance for both Akane and Nabiki.
I don't feel that it is explained well *within* the story for why
and how.
I would feel very disconnected in a BGC fic if Leon McNichols
just hopped into a suit of super-tech armor and spouted off that
he's ready to show off his true combat skills. Similar problem
here.
[Ranma has let his emotions get the best of him a lot,
actually. Nabiki is
no emotionaless robot either. And Ranma is the second biggest
user of the
mallet-sama too!]
I should have stated, _extreme_ emtional distress, Harry,
rarely does
accidental magic, and only pushed to the _edge_ (same with the
others we
see)
It's pretty intense emotions/stress, true. But there's definitely
times when Ranma's lost it (anger/pride/fear) that he should have
manifested. Ranma doesn't have *that* great of control until
after the HSH and Umisenken, IMO.
Plus, who says Genma didn't train it out of him? And while
there is no canon
proof, you _can_ say that Nabiki had the basic martial arts
training... plus
her Mother COULD have trained her just enough.
(And thanks, you actually proved MY point. Mallet sama is
accidental magic!)
Er, mallet-sama has always been a sight-gag about 'just rewards'
for being a jerk.
[And Dumbledore is a very "good" wizard, but was more than
willing (and
seemed to get official backing) to kidnap Harry Potter to make
sure he went
to school. Merely ripping up their letters seems far too small
an
impediment.]
First: That was HARRY POTTER. Who's to say that _ALL_ magi
are fetched
like he is?
True. My thought process behind why the ministry (and
international wizards) is that accidental magic would require
obliviators and government intervention. I do think that 1-5
years is *normally* complusory. Only Fudge tried to get Harry
thrown out earlier as a slander attack.
[With the use of birds as mail-carriers, I'd say that we're
expected to
think that the Japanese Academy is mostly similar to Hogwarts
as a private
school to train wizards.]
Yes, yes it is. We're opeating off the concept that names go
down on the
rolls 11 (or in several cases, in the US 6 years) years before
the baby magi
is supposed to attend.
I must have missed the US thought/explanations. But it sounds
pretty cool.
Though the teleporting birds dropping letters super-quick
seems a bit odd.
*shrugs* Japan uses Falcons, and they're _fast_ (falcons,
espicall merlins
and pergienes are FAST little buggers!) And they dropped, and
flitted
off... not teleported. Point, should have been made clear.
Actually, you had them sending letters *really* fast from
Hogwarts. Like minutes apart. That' must be the MACH 20 owl.
[No, not as dilligently. But we are only shown the same
mechanism.]
For _HARRY_. No one _else_ is shown.
That's the point. Don't assume that becasue they did it in
Harry's case,
they do it in _all_ cases. (A point I wish to make)
They'd have to because of the statute of secrecy. Can't let Billy
fail to learn at least basic enough control to not require
oblivators constantly to cover up accidental magic. As a matter
of fact, I think they might imprison you if you did keep doing
accidental magic and inteferred with Muggle society.
[I don't think that Dumbledore is a bastard on purpose, but
that he's very
driven. The road to hell is paved with good intentions and all,
hmm?]
End result is the same. Bastard. I don't hate Ablus. He's
proven he's
willing to throw down. BUT... _I_ hate (for reasons that
several know)
chessmasters and players. Albus, by withholding on SEVERAL
occasions key
information, and (if Ablus is that dammed frigging powerful,
why in HELL did
Quirrel and Crotch get away with it?) hiring people, to be
cold, were ethier
enemy agents, OR incompenet, has proven he does _NOT_ have
Harry's best
intrestes at heart. Worse, he's quite willing to get SNAPE
killed, instead
of taking the risk himself. First rule of Leadership.
??? Dumbledore can't spy directly on Deatheaters, he's the
'enemy' of them. Snape is vaguely trusted/needed. Dumbledore
can't do Snape's job. I'm not following this at all.
"Never, ever, ever! ask a subdorante to do something you are
_unwilling_ to
do yourself." (not UNABLE, that's the key word. It's shown
actually to good
detail in a STNG ep. When Troi was testing for her command
slot. She kept
trying to solve the problem _herself_. She _was_ NOT unwilling
to do it.
She failed in realizing she was unable to do it, or wasn't the
best _choice_
to do it. She had the right idea...) Ablus is clearly
unwilling to assume
the risk himself, insteads risks a (quite possibly his ONLY)
spy in
VOldermort's camp. Tell me again, why I should _like_ the man?
One point that _will_ hit, is that Ablus _will_ lose any
respect he's
earned. Jerking people by the chains is a _bad_ idea...
espically Ranma.
Worse, jerking OTHER people in Ranma's presense is a STUPID
idea.
Well, it definitely blew up in Dumbledore's face at the end of
OotP.
The LAW does not, Arthur. However, Weasly married a pure
blood, (both of
the two married ones), ALL the Sytherians tend to... Tradition
is just as
important, y'know.
[I don't think there is any indication that Arthur and Molly
married for
anything but love. The fact that they are purebloods seems
coincedental,
IMO. Yes, there is a lot of prestige to marrying PB to PB. But
it isn't even
most of the wizards anymore. The Potters were pureblood before
Harry, but
you never hear anyone (except maybe fanatical purebloods) even
mentions
about caring about it.]
A. Colonge's refering to the AMAZON laws. Amazons are a bit
hidebound...
You were the one stating that it was this tradition in Britain
that was stupid. It doesn't seem to be *that* widespread.
B. So noted, even Draco doesn't insult Harry's blood.
C. I'm _NOT_ saying all wizards (or even all of the Sytherians,
Snape,
Zamibi, and several others are _not_ this way, for example in
our story) are
this way, or even caring. Come to think of it, Snape doesn't
even insult
Heromine's blood one little bit. Insults her becasue she's Red
and Gold,
but NOT her blood.)
Okay.
D. Last, but NOT least! sometimes, just sometimes... ever hear
of a red
herring? Let's be honest... you've only read the progolue...
and the final
propechy. Just perhaps we have a story to tell... and
remember, Ranma
_does_ bring Chaos where he goes.
I was going off of comments you made. You are really painting
*all* Britain wizards as really stupid and such. That's why I'm
confused.
[It seems closer to the metaphor for the English nobility
marrying
non-nobles. Maybe the nobles really care for their "purity" but
it doesn't
stop the wealthiest person in England being a commoner (JK
Rowling now,
IIRC. :) ]
^_- And remember, one point this story will answer...
History and tales of the past... lie.
Hmm.
[And most students in Hogwarts are either half-bloods or
mud-bloods. The
only three pure-blood families that I can name off the top of
my head is the
Malfoys, Longbottoms and Weasleys.]
Sirius. Remus, Luna, are also pure blood (canon), Snape as
well. _JR_ did
not _SAY_ who was pureblood or _NOT_.
I'll grant the only ones who are proven to be of pure blood
(aka, wizard
parents and grandparents) are Sirius, Luna, Malfoy,
Longbottoms, Weaslys,
Potters. (James)
No, Luna's parents are wizard/witch. We have no idea if they are
Purebloods (can trace back their wizarding bloodline many
generations.)
Harry is still not a pure-blood, even though he was born of a
witch/wizard union.
However, you're making a assumption that they're the _only_
ones. Don't
assume. For all pratical effects, we're assuming the Snakes
are mostly
pureblood.
Counterpoint: Tom Riddle. He's a half-blood and Slytherin.
[You are generalizing all Britain wizards = pureblood bias.
When there is
no direct indication that this is even slightly the case. And
then using
that to say that the entire wizarding society is stupid. That
seems really
odd. I'm very confused about this.]
*sigh* Britian/European wizards. Dumstrang _IS_ known to be
pro pureblood,
for one.
As, _I_ stated, _EUROPE_ yes.
The _OTHER_ nations, no.
ANd as for Britian and Europe's stupidity? Need I go father
than "Fudge"?
Also several _OTHER_ indications of their... actions, in the
European
nature. Trust me, any "society" that tosses people in jail,
without trials,
attacks ALL people of a "race" (Remus, anyone?) just becasue of
a defect,
and various other actions... does NOT have my approval.
Dangerously toleratarian is not the same as really stupid. I'm
not very happy with Bush here in the US and want to see him out
of the White House ASAP, but I wouldn't characterize the entire
US Government as stupid. Dangerous, very.
Perhaps you're making the assumption the wizardly world _is_
like Britian.
We are not.
^_- (it's arelady indicated for one, that America differs from
Europe, in
canon)
Barely mentioned, IIRC. I think they mentioned the Salem
Institute. And that's about it.
As I noted. Accidental Magic is linked to emtions. One thing
Ranma and
Nabiki BOTH have is solid CONTROL of said emotions.
[That is blatantly false. Ranma loses his temper all the
time. And even
Nabiki has shown the looming-anger-aura several times. They
aren't nearly as
psycho as Akane, but she's got the quick to anger/quicker to
forgive thing
going on.]
Badly? No, Ranma _does_ have control. Perhaps you miss the
difference
between getting pissed, and TRULY losing the control There _IS_
a
difference, old bean. I get mad.
Ranma loses control of his temper quite a bit. The mere thought
of P-Chan/Ryoga attempting to 'steal' Akane is usually enough to
do itl. He's the hero of his series, but he's no saint. He's just
not *totally* psycho about it.
_I_ don't lose control... otherwise I'd be dead by now.
You aren't Ranma.
[Actually, I was trying to give you a slightly better reason
for why they
hadn't shown accidental magic very much.]
Arthur: Part of the reason you "assume" we need a better
reason, is you're m
aking a slight assumption.
(and I'm not saying you're wrong, my POV differs, here,
y'know?)
You're assuming just becasue they _do_ get emotional, means
they lose
control. _I_ do not, I know at least a half dozen OTHERS who
do not.
One thing the Martial arts DO teach is self control. Perhaps
you're making
a mistake _I_ have seen in literature before?
Control != denial, far too many people seem to think that.
Hell... if you want a "example" from fiction, and since I
_KNOW_ you've read
the series. Remember when Joker killed Jason?
Batman had _every_ right to snap his neck. NO one would have
held him back.
He didn't. He stopped HIMSELF. HE LET himself get _MAD_...
(joker did NOT
enjoy that meeting!) but he did not kill!
Or, for Ranma... even easier.
Ranma has been in at _least_ 4 situations where he's gotten
_very_ upset...
yet kept himself from seriously hurting ANYONE.
Amazing, no?
There's lots of cannon evidence where he did his level best to
put some people in the hospital. And it doesn't require murderous
rage to lose control enough to do accidental magic.
Harry got mad enough over his dead parents being insulted, but I
don't think he would have shot Marge. Several students did
accidental magic because of the pressure of the OWLs (including
Hermione).
While I see your point, I think you underestiamte the
difference between
losing your temper and loosing your control. There _is_ a
difference.
Andrew
Arthur Hansen
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