=46rom: "DB Sommer" <sommer@3rdm.net>
To: "Ookla The Mok" <ooklathemok@mac.com>
Cc: <ffml@anifics.com>
References: <AE1965B1-1C5F-11D6-A4F9-003065A62C60@mac.com>
Subject: Re: [FFML] Re: [Ranma] newRanma - Omake and Author's Notes
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2002 12:55:25 -0500
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The following contains my opinions and my opinions only.
Ookla the Mok wrote:
On Thursday, February 7, 2002, at 09:11 PM, C. Jones wrote:
<SNIP>
I very much hope that all of you who were prereading before won't be
mad at me for cutting you out of the process like that. With =
newRanma,
I've found that I just have more fun when I'm playing a solo.
Your decision is a sound one if it makes writing enjoyable for you.
Though it would have been even more sound if he had decided to
actually try to learn how to sift through what C+C is useful and what
won't be useful to him. This is something most people learn how to do
on their own. That CJ has not doesn't affect me in the slightest,
however I think it sets a poor example for others. My recommendation,
folks, is that if you find yourself in a similar situation to what CJ
was in, don't do what he did. You'll be far better served by
persevering and thinking ahead to what recommendations will work for
the story you want to write and which ones won't, rather than ignoring
them altogether. You are under no obligation to do what everyone=20
recommends to you, but the odds are someone out there will give you
some advice that is helpful. When you find these diamonds in the rough
(which are usually more plentiful than you think), use them. You might
be pleased with the results. Yes, it takes some effort and work at
times, but I know that from a personal standpoint I've never been
disappointed at using good advice others have given me.
However, as a favor to members of the FFML,
Or anyone reading any of his works, for that matter.
it would be nice if you
would state at the beginning of your chapters that you positively do =
not
want any C&C beyond catching spelling and grammar errors, if you even
want that.
Actually it *should* have been there from the beginning that he was
going to refuse to listen to what anyone else has to say. It's a
common courtasy, to say the least.
I'm sure you noticed that several people took time to write
out detailed responses to chapters.
And I'm sure they're grateful for having completely wasted their time,
too. I know there is no quicker way to get me to not C+C an author
than by totally ignoring comments I send to them. In the case of
spamfics and shorter works, it's a bit understandable, but if someone
does a line by line on any 50K+ work that takes over an hour for them
to do and there isn't even a 'thank you' sent in reply, there really
isn't much point in doing it again. No one likes wasting their time,
especially when there are many, many others who would not regard an
attempt to help in some small way as being useless
If you had generally let people know
ahead of time that you weren't going to pay attention to suggestions,
they could have avoided wasting their time and instead lent suggestions
to those who would more appreciate it.
<SNIP>
Most people on the list do just lurk and read, and I'm sure more people
have enjoyed your story than have taken the time to mention so. Simply
reading the chapters you put out is much less of an investment of time
than providing C&C, but those who are willing to write C&C should be
warned to find other targets.
Indeed. There's little enough C+C going around now that what small
amount does get out there should never end up wasted before even a
word was typed out. Personally I find CJ's lack of foresight in
mentioning his predecision to ignore everyones' comments...
distasteful, to say the least. There are dozens of authors on the list
that would be delighted to receive one third of the C+C that was given
for nR, which ended up in oblivion.
I would also like to disagree with something CJ contends:
When I do make those changes, I will be using the same publishing
model I used with newRanma. I'm not going to accept any kind of story
input. Even if it makes The Clan a worse story, it will still be *my*
story,
=46olks, accepting C+C does NOT make a story any less *yours*. C+C helps
you sort out your own thoughts regarding your story and might make you
look at things from a different angle or viewpoint. It might even
inspire you to go on a different tangent from what you originally had
planned, but it's still your story, even if others might help you in
its creation with their own insights. That merely makes your story
better, not someone elses.
I really ought to at least start on that C+C article I wanted to do
for a while now. It would have addressed some of my opinions on this
already. As I said, these are only my opinions, but I think most of
them are closer to being useful rather than useless. :)
D.B. Sommer (who is glad he didn't waste his time trying to C+C any of
newRanma, which felt neither particularly new nor Ranmalike. But that
doesn't really matter since CJ wouldn't have listened to me anyway
^_^)
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