Subject: [FFML] Re: Japanese Racism Stuff, was: [Ranma]Never Again update and Japanese resources
From: "Jerry Levine" <patchmonkey@patchmonkey.net>
Date: 10/26/2001, 11:48 AM
To: "'Michael Noakes'" <noakes_m@hotmail.com>, <bickhjm5@yahoo.com>, <a.brown10@home.com>
CC: <ffml@anifics.com>

As this doesn't really belong here, and I would prefer not to incite
Alan or Gary's wrath, I can point you to a book I'm currently reading
about dealing with Japanese culture (I don't, however, know how Mr.
Noakes feels about this book) as I'm heading there in January of next
year for a short study abroad, and then hopefully after graduation
again.

The book is called Culture Shock! Japan, by Rex Shelly.  Try picking it
up in the travel section of you local library or at
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1558680713/qid=1004111153/sr=8-2/
ref=sr_8_3_2/103-7961151-0021431 .

I've learned from it several interesting facts, including that I'm going
to have to change the way I ask one of my friends to help me when he's
tutoring me...:)



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-----Original Message-----
From: ffml-bounce@anifics.com 
[mailto:ffml-bounce@anifics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Noakes
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2001 7:46 AM
To: bickhjm5@yahoo.com; a.brown10@home.com
Cc: ffml@anifics.com
Subject: [FFML] Japanese Racism Stuff, was: [Ranma]Never 
Again update and Japanese resources


Heyho,

***OOOOK. Red light!  I'm not entirely sure what you
are pointing to here, but.  Gaijin on average do NOT
have it as hateful as you put it.  It may seem so to individuals who 
have never experienced discrimination before, however, if 
you've been 
through it before...the Japanese are usually REALLY easy to
ignore.  I'm not big on Sento myself... I'm more of an
onsen type, but the very worst I've had is guys in an
elevator talking to each other about what I'm doing
there... entertainment?  Yeah yeah racial
bigotry...grow a thicker skin, it happens.  Outside of
that one occasion at a Japanese inn (ryokan) out in
the mountains... no problems at all other than some
staring them many many times I've been to onsens.

I'll have to concur on this point.  I've seen a number of 
fics that paint 
the Japanese in some pretty terrible lights, concerning their 
attitude 
towards gaijin.  A lot of it strikes me as largely unfounded.

Now, first off, I'm writing this from a very limited 
perspective--I'm a 
caucasian western male.  Females have it a bit tougher.  I've heard 
non-caucasians have it even tougher.  With that in mind....

There's a definite (and occasionally annoying) prevalent 
racism in Japan.  
Tonight I headed over to one of my schools and cut through a suburban 
neighbourhood.  A young girl stepping out of her house saw me 
and exclaimed 
'gaijin da!'--something I get prettty often.  Later I stopped at a 
robo-sushi place, and a group of three (son, mother, 
grandmother, I think) 
stared at me as I walked in and found a seat; the kid kept 
staring and 
checking up on me as I munched on my food.

Now, I live in a fairly rural part of Japan, so it's not all that 
surprising, though for anyone from a somewhat more 
interracial environment, 
it takes a while to get used to.  Surprising thing is that 
I've still seen 
it in parts of big cities, like Osaka; and even then, it 
strikes me as odd 
how few non-Japanese you see around.

The thing is, it's important to realize (in my opinon) that 
often, there's 
very little if any spitefulness, anger, or resentment behind 
the staring or 
exclamations.  When that young girl went 'foreigner!', it 
really was just an 
exclamation of surprise--especially since she was a primary 
school kid, odds 
are she hasn't seen more than a handful of foreigners in the 
flesh.  Also, 
this is a language where people _say_ the emotion they're 
feeling or action 
they're doing, often: kids say 'surprised!' when they're 
surprised; they say 
'erase, erase' when they're erasing.  So, girl sees 
foreigner, she says, 
'foreigner'.  <shrug>  I can't imagine why I'd want to get 
offended over 
something like that.  Some people do; my opinion is, grow up 
and get a clue.

My opinion is, however, one that has been developped over a 
short time.  
I've only been here for two years, with no intentions of 
forging a niche for 
myself here.  From what I've learned talking to long-time 
expats, that's 
where the frustrations begin.  I haven't tried piecing deep into the 
society, and so haven't encountered barriers; but as mentioned below, 
obstacles to what should be easy tasks, such as renting an 
apartment, can be 
intensely upsetting.  Struggle with the language and you're met with 
encouragement and support; master the language, I've heard, 
and people 
become closed.

And it goes on...the point
is yeah there's some stuff that goes on, but it's not
as bad as you seem to be painting it, nor as bad as
some books I've read paint it either.

Yup.  For the most part, I've found Japanese people to be among the 
friendliest I've ever met.  Hell, sometimes I find myself 
wanting to break 
away from the gaijin crowd and 'mingle with the natives', as 
it were; and 
some of the best times I've had here have involved Japanese 
people I've 
never met having me join their party.  Yes, I'm aware that in 
many of those 
cases I end up playing 'gaijin stunt monkey' (as I call 
it--hell, that's 
basically my job) for them--who gives a shit?  The atmosphere 
is friendly 
and I'm having a great time.

The balance to this, of course, is some truly frightening stuff.  
Occasionaly these ultra-nationalist black vans cruise through 
town, playing 
traditional music loudly over a roof-mounted speaker, while 
some guy inside 
shouts anti-foreigner propaganda.  They're painted with the 
old rising sun 
symbol.  Definitely chilling shit.  I've also been bounced 
back from various 
bars and clubs over time--something I'm obviously not used to.

(Though it has to be said, that while being barred entrance 
based on race is 
obviously, well, racist, I can actually understand where 
they're coming 
from, often.  The few fights I've seen break out in Japanese 
bars have 
almost invariably involved gaijin.  It's one of the things I 
like about 
Japanese clubs--the whole 'meat market', testosterone-thick 
air thing, is 
missing.  It's actually fun and relaxing, not aggressive.  
Also, if it 
happens to be a snack, hostess, or lounge bar/club, a lot of 
these places 
assume that a foreigner won't understand what the place is actually 
offering.  The girls chatting with you at most snack bar 
aren't there to be 
pawed, and a lot of foreigners don't quite seem to get that.  
Also, most of 
these places have heavy cover charges--the only lounge bar 
I've ever been in 
charged 10 000 yen just for walking in the door!  I'm 
positive that, had I 
not been with a Japanese friend (who was thankfully paying!), 
I would've 
been stopped at the door.  Fair enough; I've heard of too many gaijin 
wandering into a place like that, drinking their fill, than getting 
(understandably) upset when they discover an extra $100 cover 
charge slapped 
on their bill as they go to leave.  Many clubs choose to 
avoid the conflict 
and simply bar all foreigners from coming in (unless accompanied by a 
Japanese who can explain how it all works).)

Man.  I've got to stop writing these Friday night replies.  This shit 
belongs in my journal, not the FFML.  I've strayed here, so 
as I crack open 
my second Asahi, I'll try and bring it back to the onsen thing.

Onsens and spas are fantastic; when I leave this country, 
it's at the top of 
the list of things I'll miss a whole bunch.  I just know the 
same thing 
would never work back home--open up a public bath where 
people of the same 
sex lounge around naked for an hour or two, and it'll quickly get a 
homosexual stigma, for some reason.  Unfortunate, 
really--these places are 
fantastic.

Now, if you go to an onsen, are you going to get stared and 
giggled at?  
Unlikely.  Although it does happen--usually when somebody 
gets the ritual 
wrong, which happens quite often.  A few weeks ago I hit this 
amazing onsen 
deep in Tokushima, set in the Iya gorge--anyone who's read 
Alex Kerr's 
self-obsessed 'Lost Japan' might have heard of the place.  
For many of the 
JETs I was with, it was their first time at an onsen.  They were 
understandably shy.  It's not easy for many Westerners to 
bare it all in 
front of others, even if everyone's of the same sex.  Is it 
any wonder, 
then, that for a people who have it so ingrained in their 
society, to find 
it amusing when some foreigner comes mincing into the bath, 
trying to cover 
far too much with far too small a towel?

But once you've got the whole thing down, it becomes just 
another perk of 
Japanese life.  Sure, you'll still get people coming up to 
you, but in my 
experience they're just men who've lived abroad and want to chat--or 
practice their Japanese.  The worst I've had is students of 
mine bumping 
into me at a public bath.  That's a bit uncomfortable; I 
don't mind meeting 
a student after work hours, but I don't really want my 
genitals to be a 
subject of discussion among the student body....

Umm... yeah.  This isn't really C&C anymore, so I'll stop 
here.  I can't 
expect that this was of any use to the actual story, at this 
point--so I 
hope it was of some interest to those curious about Japan.  
Or something.

Later,
Mike Noakes
www.geocities.com/noakes_m

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