Subject: [FFML] Re: [fanfic][SM crossover] A General Time Paradox - Chapter2
From: allyn yonge
Date: 12/13/2000, 3:01 PM
To: xelloss@pp.nic.fi, Nidoking <Matthew.P.Katinas@rose-hulman.edu>, ffml@fanfic.com

HI,

I'm going to send this to FFML as well, since I think

it might be of general interest. This will be the last

one though. 



1) I am NOT telling the author how to write her/his

story. My C&C is just that, comments and criticism.

I'm telling the author what I would like to see, how I

would write it, if I were writing it.



IF, and ONLY if, the author agrees with what I have

written should he/she make a change.



2)I am NOT suggesting that ALL should be revealed at

one time.



My point was, and I may have made it poorly, regarding

senshi vs. Bad Guy's, the idea that "your powers don't

work because they were tailored for the Negaverse" is,

IMO, simplistic and a cop-out. JUST my opinion. I'd

prefer a little more detailed reasoning.

Example:

If you have a Sherman Tank vs Tiger (WWII) the Sherman

doesn't get killed simply because its gun wasn't

"designed" to kill Tigers. It gets killed because it's

got a little, low velocity 75, the Tiger's got THICK

armor AND its 88 has almost three times the range.

There are a whole series of things involved.

Recall the the Sherman won WWII, because there were a

LOT more of them than the Tigers. Because THEY had

fuel, the Tigers did not. THEY had air-cover, the

Tigers did not, etc, etc, etc. 



Now, let's do a Ryoko v. Jupiter fight.



I don't know a lot about Ryoko so bear with me if I

make a mistake.



Ryoko can fly, move through objects, has some sort of

"shield" I think and shoots energy? Also fast and

strong.



Jupiter . . .Lightning bolts, Oak Evolution, etc.

Don't know how strong or fast in comparison to Ryoko

but she's tough if her past battles are any

indication. (she can fly by the end of the last

season, btw. OF course she's naked and has big white

wings, but she's air-born.)



Starting with this, you throw them into a fight and

see what happens. It's NOT just brute force either.

Luck, plays a part. And the personalities of the

fighters.



However, while Ryoko MIGHT be tougher one-on-one, the

Senshi fight as a TEAM. Sailor Planet Attack, while

slow to power up is nothing to sneeze at. 



My point in all this is, IMO, build in a LOT of detail

on why or why not attacks work or fail.



Jupiter does a Supreme Thunder on Ryoko. Ryoko phases

through a wall out of the way or lets the bolt go

through her? OR, if it hits her shield . . .some

damage? No damage, or four solid hits and she'd  be

toast? 

It's the difference between the old cop shows or

westerns with "infinite repeaters"

OR

The hero/bad buy is crouched behind a wall, looking at

the last three rounds in his magazine.

NOW you've got suspense. ^_^



AND, if you START your fight, KNOWING you've only got

30 rounds for the entire fight . . .it's a very

different story than if you just keep shooting and

never have to worry about running dry. Or twisting an

ankle, or missing the target, or . . .



There's a  logical problem here. IF R,R & L are

completely UN-affected by the Senshi's attacks, or

only minimally . . .end of story. Why bother even

looking for them? Just attack something, wait for the

Senshi to show up and toast them.

{I'm NOT taking into consideration "political"

factors. That's a different part of the story.

Again, in WWII, if the Germans had used their

nerve-gas they'd have won the war. Hitler wouldn't use

it. Because he was afraid the allies would retaliate

with THEIR nerve-gas. What he didn't know was. . .they

didn't have any. ^_^) The point in Fanfiction . . .if

YOU write about a supremely powerful fighter that does

NOT kill his/her enemy----you've got to guild in a

logical reason WHY. (logical in terms of the story and

characters. REAL people do illogical (by rational

standards) things that are VERY consistent by their

own internal logic.

IF R, R & L are not affected by the Senshi powers, WHY

would Beryl simply not say . . ."Bring me the head of

Sailor Moon."

There can be reasons. She might not KNOW they aren't

affected. She might be afraid it's a trick. Any number

of reasons. I don't care WHAT the reason is, as long

as it's believable in the context of the story.



This was a logical problem with the original SM, btw.

IF the Generals had attacked in force, they would have

crushed the senshi like a bug(s).



Some fanfiction writers have gotten around this by

postulating an energy limitation on the numbers of

Youma who could be transported at one time.



(It got a little better in later seasons.)



THIS is the point I'm trying to make. I'm not as

interested in "specifically" who has what powers or

who would win a particular fight. Make sure you have

DETAILED the powers and more importantly the LIMITS of

power for all your characters.



For example: It's pretty clear that Usagi, while

powerful, has an upper limit. go beyond that and it

kills her. THIS gives the story Dramatic Tension.

YES, Usagi can whip out the silver crystal and change

the universe with a thought . . .but that amount of

power will kill her.



(Similar limitation on Saturn. She can destroy worlds,

but it's a Kamikaze mission.)



Lina can do a dragon slave . . .but it's NOT a

precision weapon. It's not a close fighting weapon

either. For instance, if Venus held her with a

Venus-love-me-chain, while Jupiter and Mars closed for

some Interpersonal-Conflict-Resolution (ie, bitch-slap

her with a Buick)a Dragon Slave would toast her too.



And, the Dragon Save takes time to power up (Giga

Slave even longer)

She can throw fire-balls, but how many, how fast for

how long? And, how is she if she gets hit with a Mars

Flame Sniper (or if Mars just does a Demon

Banishment?) Lina uses DARK magic? How will that fare

against a Miko?



THIS gives Dramatic Tension. The reader KNOWS, at the

start of the fight . . .



Well, if Lina can _just_ get a little distance and a

few seconds grace, she can crispy-critter the Senshi

with a Dragon Slave.



OR



If Jupiter can _JUST_ hold on a little longer, she can

wear Lina down BEFORE she can pull back far enough to

do a Dragon Slave.







I am NOT offering these as suggestions on WHAT you

should do. I don't care about the specifics.

I AM saying that these are the sort of detail I'm

looking for in a story.



IF you have that sort of detail . . .IF, early on in

the story, you have set these limitations, IMO, it's a

stronger story.



(David Eddings used that to great effect in his

series. His magicians had a LOT of power, but he spent

a lot of time and effort DETAILING exactly what could

and could not be done--the consequences of a mistake.

Made for a much tighter and more exciting story.)





I realize you're working from the first season dub.

Still, the senshi are no pushovers. R,R & L MAY indeed

be stronger. But I want sufficient detail to make it

believable. AND, if R,R & L are THAT powerful . . .

well, it's not very exciting to watch a Pit-bull vs.

Blind Kitten fight. Sort of takes all the suspense out

of it. ^_*



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