Subject: [FFML] Re: [Ranma]Bedlam Fire Chapter 3
From: allyn yonge
Date: 12/13/2000, 10:41 PM
To: Dave Menard <deibu_kun@sympatico.ca>, FFML POSTING <ffml@fanfic.com>

HI,

Thanks for writing.

comments on Comments $$





--- Dave Menard <deibu_kun@sympatico.ca> wrote:



<SNIP>

 _That_ girl was not only

after her

fiance, she was eating into her restaurant's

profits.



    Ah, Ukyo's very own special brand of

obsessiveness... (Y'know, you're

gonna tick off a few Ukyo Churchies with this

characterization, accurate

though it may be. It's a good thing this Akane's so

nutso herself. I like

parity of insanity.)





$$I've been warned about that before. So far I haven't

heard from them.



Actually I like Ukyou. I like ALL the characters. It's

hard to come up with a Bad Guy in Ranma.

I just exaggerate characteristics. In this case, Ukyou

spend TEN years looking for vengence . . .and her

world seems to consist of Okonomiyaki and . . .ummmm .

. .well that's about it. Even her fantasies of Ranma

include Okonomiyaki in most instances (that I can find

in manga)







     "You ought to put something on that bruise."

Akane

said briefly, glancing at San Pu's attempt to

print a map of



    ##San Pu? I assume this is a typo, and you meant

to use Shan Pu. (That

is, unless you've decided to start a whole new

romanization scheme...)



$$Tupo . . .errr . . .tYpo. ^_*



Qinghai province on Ukyou's face--with her fist.

She could

smell Kashiwa-mochi cooking. She loved the

sweet-bean and

rice-cake confection wrapped in an oak leaf. Her

father had

always bought it for her, even though it was a

traditional treat

for Boy's Festival. If Ranma found out, he would

tease her

about being such a tomboy.



    ##These little "culture notes" are a hallmark of

your fics, and they're

definitely informative, BUT... I'm not sure whether

this scene really needs

'em. It just seems to be tacked on here as padding.

Of course, if you plan

to make Kashiwa-mochi a plot device, ignore my

comments above.





@@Not in and of itself. Trying to add a little to

Akane's personality. And to show her mind wandering

just a bit due to "green fire" influence. 





     "Listen you," Ukou flushed angrily, making

the bruises

stand out in horrid contrast. "I know you did

something to my

Ran-chan.  Ranma honey wouldn't have cut class

unless you

did something to him!"



    ##Umm, Ukyo? We are talking about Ranma SAOTOME,

right? (This is a

little bloody-minded, even for Ukyo)



$$Well, Ranma IS a comedy. I just use the events w/o

the comedic overtones. Think about all the sharp and

blunt instruments, drugs, explosions in Ranma daily

life. If it were NOT a comedy, they'd need a UN Peace

Keeping Force. ^_^



I just keep the obsession and remove a little of the

comedy. 



<SNIP>



    ##Again with the cultural notes. Once again,

informative (and

appetizing- if I should ever get the chance, they

sound worth trying) but

they seem out of place. I guess maybe you're trying

to show Akane's

distractedness here? Like she can't focus due to the

Green Flame's

influence? If that's the case, maybe just mention

the names of the foods

she's thinking of, rather than describing them.





$$I tried that. It seemed a little off. I'm trying to

show Akane focusing on happier times. It might need a

little re-write. I'll look at it, but so far it

doesn't seem to be a real problem. (not of God Eater

proportions at any rate) ^_^



    You may lose readers briefly, but what it seems

like now is a case of

"Rod 'n Don" ing. Y'know...



<SNIP> ROTFLOL



    I exaggerate, but do you see what I mean?



$$Yes.Point well taken.

I'll see what I can do. (OTOH there are some

readers who LOVE this sort of thing. I usually just

skip over it if I'm not interested.)





<SBNIP>

  "Genma

promised

marriage. He stole my dowry. He stole my honor. He

stole my

_womanhood_!"



    ##If this is a post-vol.38 story, Ukyo seems a

little _too_ bitter for

the time period. Maybe the Flame is affecting those

around Akane as well,

making them angrier and more aggressive than usual?

It's just that, while

Ukyo certainly must _think_ about these things a

fair amount, using them as

a basis to attack akane out of the blue like this

seems slightly out of

character. Even Shampers and Kodachi generally need

something to set them

off before they go bananas...



$$??? Ummmm, well, when we last left them they were

throwing BOMBS at the wedding. I'd say that qualifies

as a "aggressive". And in the Cursed Doll anime,

Shampoo and Ukyou didn't need much to set them off.

(following and attacking because the "cursed" Akane

was walking with Ranma) Again, IMO, I'm just removing

the comedy and leaving the violence and obsession. 



<SNIP>



     "You've been leading Ranma around on a

leash,"

Ukyou snarled, "making him do stuff that he

doesn't want to

do. It's going to stop now!" With a ritualistic

flourish, Ukyou

dropped into an offensive stance, spatula held at

high middle

guard position.



    ##Ah, the current grievance at last. Considering

that the only way the

attempted wedding could fit into Ukyo's worldview

would be if Ranma was

being coerced, this makes sense. Of course, that

still leaves us with the

question of "why now?"



$$Because Ranma's been spending a lot of time with

Akane (because she's been acting so oddly) But Ukyou

(who I'd classify as a stalker, borderline psychopath,

if Ranma were NOT a comedy) can only see this as a

threat. (I'm basing this a little on actual stalking

cases where women see other women as rivals. Scary.

Some of these women have NEVER even met the man

they're obsessed with)







<SNIP>



     "You must have thought the 'Tunnel of Lost

Love' was

pretty funny?" Akane asked. "And when I was

possessed by

that Demon Doll?" Ukyou hung limply as Akane held

her by

the throat. "And throwing bombs at my wedding? I

bet you

thought that was hilarious!" Ukyou cried out as

Akane

viciously twisted her nipple. "DIDN'T YOU!"





    ##Ouch. The flame is quite the sadist, eh?

Nasty.





$$Errrr . . .the murdering canabalistic genocidal

Necromancer and the atomic bombing of Japan at the

start didn't offer a clue? ^_^



(And I DID put in the warning at the start)



<SNIP>



    ##Someone else may have mentioned this already,

but this is very

reminiscent of the Princess Bride. Not that that's a

_bad_ thing, not at

all...



$$Yep. Princess Bride, Jules De Grandin, Shadow,

Spider--Master of Men, etc, etc. I'm drawing on every

pulp story I can think of. (And Princess Bride had

every cliche ever made of Heroic/Romantic story

telling. AND did it very well)

I actually thought about having Akane watch Princess

Bride earlier in the story, but decided that might be

a bit much. 



<SNIP>

      "Sam . . .urai. I am . . .  am . . .

SAMURAI!" She

punctuated the scream with a savage blow that

shook a two-

hundred old oak. "SAMURAI! SAMURAI! SAMURAI!"



   ## "Ow!" the tree suddenly yelped, disgorging a

battered-looking Tsubasa,

who immediately focussed on his attacker. "You hurt

my sweet Ukyo! Prepare

to die!!!"



    "Aha!" the Green Flame-possessed Akane smiled

viciously. "Finally, a

character I can kill without alienating half of

fandom!

Moo-hoo-hoo-ha-ha!!!!"



$$LOL. I'm glad I DIDN'T think of this. I might never

have managed to finish (well, almost. at 99%) 



VERY funny. 





<SNIP>

    ##Brr. I'm not sure I like this Akane. She's

scary... ~_^



@@Good. But . . .you ain't seen nuthin' yet.

This story has carnage on a scale unseen on a fanfic

scale. (well, almost. ^)*  )



<SNIP>





     A tiny frown creased Kasumi's smooth brow

indicating, for her, a severe disturbance of her

normally placid

nature. "Please come down to dinner." she asked

again. "I've

made your favorite--egg custard with octopus balls

and rice,

cold Chinese noodles and Okinawan sweet fritters

with

walnuts and raisins," she added temptingly.



    ##See, now _here_ the description of ingredients

make _sense_, as Kasumi

is trying to tempt her out of her room. (Once again,

it sounds quite yummy,

too. If you or your wife actually know how to make

any of these dishes, I'll

have to cadge a meal off you someday. Yum.)



$$^_^ Yes, I thought this worked better myself.

Give me a little advance notice and I'll see what we

can do. {Have to catch the Okinawan first. They scream

and wriggle around when you're trying to de-fritter

them.)





<SNIP>



    ##Hee. You may want to clarify that the dress is

Akane's, as the first

time I read this I thought it was Kasumi's. Cute,

though.



$$Based on Manga where Akane accidently spills ink? on

Nabiki's new sweater. Then find out it's HER sweater,

that Nabiki has filched. (along with 2/3's of Akane's

closet) 



<SNIP>





     She felt like a bottle of soda that had been

shaken hard.

If she didn't let the bubbles out, she would

explode.



    ##Great simile, a very vivid image. Nice.



$$Thanks.



<SNIP>

differences between boys and girls with his new

girlfriend. A

charming young lady, refreshingly free of curses,

challenges or

magical artifacts.



    ##Nani? Do such girls exist in Nerima? ^_^



$$Nah, they import them from Hokaido.





     <SNIP>



the hazard lamp blinking at the top of the

lightning rod and into

the cool blackness of the night. Clouds drifting

over the face of

the moon caught her attention and she decided to

race them

across the sky.





    ##I like this scene, it shows an innocent joy

that's been noticably

missing in this story so far. It's nice to know that

there are some pleasant

aspects to the Green Flame's power.



$$This is actually <gasp> an important plot point. ^_*





<SNIP>



  <SNIP>



 five thousand feet, she had, at most, sixty

seconds of life, as

the cold crystalized her blood and explosive

decompression

pulped her internal organs, like a bullet train

hitting a rabbit.



    ##Hmm. GLs, even the golden-age one, fly into

space with alarming

regularity, so the Flame should be able to pull this

trick off no problem.

Even bearing in mind that the power needs to be

recharged every so often,

(Golden-age GL needed to recharge every 24hrs) Akane

hasn't been flying

around for more than a few hours... Unless, of

course, this version is

powered solely by 'negative' emotions, and is sapped

by happy thoughts, like

Akane's joy in flying...



$$That's part of it. Recall also that

the ONLY thing remaining of Green Lantern is

the _colour_ green. 



However, this is a bit of foreshadowing. 

I try to play fair with the reader and give them

clues as to what is going on.





<SNIP>

     Dazedly she watched the moon and the lights

of Tokyo

swap places as she tumbled through the night sky.

It took her

over a minute and better than five thousand feet

to remember

where she had been.



     "oh . . ."



     And what had happened.



     "shit!"



    ##Not that I object to swearing on general

principles, but Akane doesn't

seem the type to do so,  IMHO, even as an expletive.

'Crap" I can see, but

not 'Shit".



$$She's falling to her death from 80,000 feet . . .and

your worried about her _language_?



^_^ (actually this shows up a couple of more times in

the story. It's kind of a running gag. NOT a BIG gag,

just a little chuckle, if you're very subtle in your

outlook)



I did think about this for a long, long while. I

decided (having jumped from airplanes, AND had a

malfunction) that this wasn't an unreasonable

reaction.





<SNIP>



     Eight thousand feet.



     She had a history assignment due! She'd never

get into

a good college if she flunked the course.



    ##Strange, the things one thinks of in

near-death situations...





$$Based on some real life stories of people who almost

died, but survived, just. This whole scene is built on

a composite of those stories. There seems to be

1)Disbelief, this can't be happening

2)disconnected thoughts (I can't die. I've got to get

the rental car back or i'll lose my deposit) actual

thought of a person caught in an under-tow and being

slammed into the sea bottom.

3)anger



     Seven thousand feet.



     This was a stupid way to die. Ranma would

never let

her forget how stupid she had been.



    ##The lack of logic in that statement can be

attributed to panic, I

suppose ~_^



$$Fairly normal, from what I've read. People worry

that  it's a stupid way to die. (actual thought,

actual wording.) I can't die in this stupid way.





     Six thousand feet.



     "RANMA! THIS IS ALL YOUR FAULT!!!"



    ##Ah, of course it is. Thus is the balance of

the universe maintained.



$$ A little bit of Ranma-verse, a little bit of

reality. At near-death you sometimes blame someone

else.

     <SNIP>



     Emerald fire roared into life and Akane

clawed at the

sky in an effort to slow her deadly fall. One

second, then

another. And a third. The fire roared and Akane

thought that

she was actually going to make it.



    ##Aha. It IS fuelled by anger and hatred, then.

All becomes clear.



$$Well, just be sure you keep reading carefully. ^_*





<SNIP>





    Interesting. I take it that there's more to

come? 

$$about 450KB .TXT at 99% or so complete.

I'm taking a break to catch up on my e-mail and

C&Cing.

(I've done about .5MB with about 1MB to go)





It's very interesting,

if a little reminiscent of "Furies".

$$In what way?

I try NOT to berepetitive I'd like to think

I'm getting better. If Furies is my apex, I'll quit

writing. (don't want to bore people)





 Then again, if

you can't borrow from

yourself, who CAN you borrow from? ~_^

    Re-reading chapter one, something occured to me.

Akane uses a

Flame-powered shinai to smite Happosai, right? But

the flame can't effect

wood in any way, and Shinai, being made of bamboo,

are certainly wooden. So

is that a glitch, or did Akane smite him all on her

own?



$$That's the second time that's come up. :(



Recall she was beating a DREAM spider, in her dream.

(It was just Happosai's bad luck that HE was the

spider. ^_^) The "Shinai" was ALL in her mind . . . 

which then reproduced it using "green fire" which beat

the dream spider, which just happened to be in the

same spot Happosai was lurking. ^)*



    Anyway, keep up the good stuff!



Dave Menard

-------------------------------------

<SNIP>



$$Thanks for writing. Glad you liked it.

I thought I'd have chapter 4 out today,but I've been

busy with C&C and e-mail.



I'm _trying_ to proof read. (my wife is starting on

her PhD and has downgraded fanfiction. silly girl) ^_^



Should be out tomorrow.



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 And, if any is left, I buy food and clothes."-Erasmus



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