Subject: [FFML] Re: [fanfic][SM crossover] A General Time Paradox - Chapter 2
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Date: 12/12/2000, 4:50 PM
To: rcarson@rcarson.com, ffml@fanfic.com

pick out one or two, like sweatdropping or facefaulting, why not use

all the conventions? Aside from the fact that it would make a 

serious

story pretty silly, which is my objection.

True, but when not using these, a silly story becomes a whole lot

serious. Sweat-dropping, for an example, is often used as a reaction

to someone else doing something strange or embarrassing, but not

necessarily unexpected. A more "real-world" reaction might be, 

covering your face with your hands while mumbling "I don't know this 

guy"

or something like that.



      I disagree that not using stock manga/anime sight gags makes

a silly story a lot more serious. Wodehouse, Pratchett, Adams, and

a host of other writers have managed to write very silly and/or

funny stuff without sticking in a guy slipping on a banana peel or

someone being hit in the face with a pie, to borrow two examples

of sight gags from film and TV. 

Really? I have heard of these old gags, but never actually seen them.

But nevertheless, if you simply take all these visual cues from the 

story(which, IMO, doesn't really qualify as 'slapstick') you have to 

compensate by inserting other elements, to introduce the similar humor, 

which changes the tone of the story. But I digress..



Read the really funny pieces of

fanfiction and you'll notice that the true humor present in pieces

like "Ranma Jijou" or "Girl Days" has nothing much to do with

sweatdropping, facefaulting, 

True, true. Has quite some to doing with verbal acrobatics, though...





etc. As Allyn pointed out in another

email, things like that may be amusing to see in manga/anime, but

really aren't funny to read about.



Well, I guess this is true. So how about writing things as they happen.

Instead of writing that someone face-faulted, have people reacting to it,

**

"Um, miss Washuu, why are you lying on the floor?"

"Oh, nothing... just... alleviating stress, that's all," Washuu replied, as 

she pulled herself back to an upright position.

**



Or, by actually experiencing them,

**

"Oh, Ranma, You're so handsome!"

"Wha-", the owner of the aforementioned name exclaimed, 

stopping mid-step on the fence.

"Akane? What are you say-- I mean, of course I am. Why are you--

You're joking, righ-- I mean, do you really think so?"

"Ranma", Akane said, clasping her hands before her. "Of course,"

*ba-bump* went Ranma's heart.

"I am joking," Akane continued, adoration filling her voice.



It took few moments for the meaning of words to register in Ranma's

brain, over the tone with which they were spoken. But, when they did, 

Ranma found his balance failing him, as the ground rose to meet his 

face.

**

Blah. Haven't written in a long time, but hope you get what I am saying.

I mean, the importance seems to be demonstrating the feeling beyond

the action, but not necessarily by abandoning it's physical counterpart.

Though hopefully with somewhat less flowery language than the one I 

have a habit of using.



I am not, in general, in the favor of using short-cuts like "sweat-

dropped"

or "face-faulted". However, I don't think they should be shunned just 

because people consider them to be 'unrealistic'. All four series, 

Slayers, 

Ranma 1/2, Tenchi Muyo and Sailor Moon *do*, after all, have their

comical elements.



There IS a problem there, though. In the anime and manga, all these 

visual elements make sense, and are, in general, quite amusing, so 

instead of using the "sight-gags" as shortcuts, perhaps a bit of 

descriptive

prosa might bring their original effect back to the story.



    Exactly!

 

*Sigh*

People these days, 

all they want is serious drama, dark things and depression.



    No, I think they want stuff that is actually funny in itself,

rather than hoping to be mistaken for funny by summoning up fond

memories of the source material. (This is not meant as an attack

of any sort, but the expression of a deeply held conviction.)



Can't they be funny in themself *while* summoning up fond memories

of source material?

But, as it goes, I give up.

After all, everyone has a right for their opinion, and for 

their opinion to be heard, so instead of filling the list with unnecessary 

bantering, Let's just say all the necessary(I seem to be fond of that word)

things have been voiced, and further debate can be continued in private, 

if felt as necessary(I said I seem to like the word)







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