Subject: [FFML] Re: [C&C][How to write test messages] Hawk&Handsaw
From: David Johnston
Date: 1/23/2000, 3:17 AM
To: Jason Liao
CC: ffml@fanfic.com

Jason Liao wrote:
 
   So, how to regain control?

So, how do I regain control?

There is nothing really wrong with the original sentence.

Except that Ranma goes from being extremely well spoken to stating
something that isn't a proper sentence.  

Even well-spoken people do not always obey formalistic rules of grammar.
Consider this sentence from one of the best speeches in history:
"To sleep, perchance to dream."  Hamlet is a well-spoken person, but he 
doesn't need to add a pronoun to identify who is going to "sleep" 
because he knows perfectly well who he is talking about.  To quote 
another speech, "I don't see anyone else here, so you must be talkin' to 
me."  Given that this is a purely internal monologue, an implied "I" is 
not a real grammatical flaw.  Of course one issue is how this Ranma 
gained such flawless speech that the issue even arises.  

One thing that does strike me, is that this is such a remarkably stupid 
idea that I think Ranma needs some help striking upon it.  He probably 
should have just finished reading half-way through Hamlet to connect the 
story up with its inspiration, and to justify Ranma's change in 
character.  (He should probably stop reading before the part where 
Hamlet's idea leads to the death of his fiancee and friends.)


Had he been speaking in his
ordinary fashion, I would not have pointed this out.  Even so, it still
sounds like Viz's Shampoo might say.

Not really.  Viz's Shampoo would say, "How Shampoo get control back?"

Of course the problem with this speech in the first place is that you 
can't regain control you never had.  


   "Then it is rude for school to be late. I'd expect it to be here promptly."

I expect...

I'd means "I would".  By saying it as you have it, he's not making a
complete sentence.

Yes he is.  "would" is a perfectly acceptable verb.

Sorry, this is a problem with finishing C&C at 3:00 in the morning.  I
-should- have said that the tense is incorrect.  He's talking about
something that is going on right now, so saying -would- is incorrect.

Unless of course he is talking about what he expects from school all the 
time, rather than just today.  


Where are the random 'acts' of madness?  What posessions is he treating as
meaningless pieces of paper?  Again, you have not accomplished what you
have said tha tyou originally intended.

Well, the truth is Hamlet's speeches were not so random as all that either.

No, it wasn't.  But Hamlet wasn't trying to prevent himself from being
manupilated.  Instead, he was trying to manipulate others (the King and
his mother).  Ranma wanted to make it not cost-effective for Nabiki to try
to manipulate him and to shield himself from retribution by faking
madness, but so far, he's just making a sermon.


That's true.  But then, despite what Ranma says, this isn't about him 
freeing himself from manipulation.  He is getting control over his life 
by gaining control over everyone in it.




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