Disruptor wrote:

Sam Vilsmeier wrote:

I wonder how long it'll be before Ranma is

tought Kiou-Ken. That tech is the

only way he way he would have a chance agenst a

SSJ. My guess is that Vejita

should ask Goku to teach it to him around level

100,000 to 1,000,000.

Not really.  Goku doesn't even use it now in his
normal form.  *well
true, he has the SSJ form*
The best example of a guy who can compete would be
Kuririn, basically
the strongest human, who I would say has at least
reached the point
where he has surpassed the first time any of
Saiyajins became super.

Oh, what about the Neko-ken?  Ranma's power

doubles or triples with that

in effect, if not more.

The neko-ken will show up, but it's not exactly a
technique that is
controllable.

	If I may add my two cents to this discussion?
(Let's not start another banned thread, so if you want
to discuss this with ME, make it private.) Before I
say anything else; THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION!! YOU DON'T
HAVE TO AGREE WITH IT!!

	 The power level of DB world can be measured
in terms of digits detectable by scouter:

level (digits)		sample character

	1		Bulma
	2		Satan
	3		Kamesennin, Chi-chi (canon
Ranma would most likely be in this level, along 200-300)
	4		Raditz, Nappa
	5		Vegeta at first appearence
	6		Ginyu, Freeza (1st form)
	7		Piccolo+Neil, Freeza (2nd-4th)
	8		SSGoku at very first time, Cold
	9		SSTrunks at first appearence,
			Androids #19 and 20
	10		SSVegeta at first appearence
	11		Androids #17 and 18,
			Piccolo+Neil+God
	12		Android #16
	13		half-complete Cell
	14		SSTrunks and SSVegeta after
			training in Room of T&S
	15		Cell Jr.
	16		Perfect Cell
	17		SSGohan at first appearence
	18		SSGoku, SSGohan, SSVegeta when
			fighting against Darbla and
			Bibbidy
	19		Fat Buu
	20		SS3Goku
	21		Buu (the one Gotenx fought)
	22		SS3Gotenx, Gohan with full
			potential
	23		Buu+SS3Gotenx (or Gohan)
	24		SSVegetto

	These figures are not official, but I don't
think they are too far off. Anyway, looking at this,
it seems that turning SS makes you 100 times stronger,
SS2 1000 times, and SS3 10000 times. Kaiou-Ken, on
the other hand, varies with what level it's in; if it's
level two, your power is doubled, if it's ten your
power is multiplied ten times. So if Ranma is to use
this to catch up, he would have to get it to at least
100th level... And to top it off, Kaiou-Ken is far more
draining than just turning super. Poor Ranma...
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