Subject: Re: Canonically Correct Re: [FFML] [C&C] Review, May 14
From: "Razorclaw X" <spiceoflife@hotmail.com>
Date: 5/14/1999, 9:02 PM
To: ffml@fanfic.com

  I've seen enough of this argument to last a lifetime (and enough of it's 
already been brought from a past one... thanks Prez for being so 
consistent).

Then Star Trek DS9 has a problem, or David Weber or Elizabeth Moon.

  You only just realized that? :P

No, the author has a problem when it troubles his audience in GENERAL.
I can easily dismiss the points of handful of readers in favor of putting
out a product that appeals to my general audience.

  Then shut up and do it. If the general audience is what you aim for, then 
do it.
  But, shouldn't we ask the AUTHOR what his aim was?

Why?  I feel that we're making statements that require some statistical
proof, especially since we're talking about subjectivity and therefore
lack any empircal evidence to support our arguments.

  If we wanted your 'logic boat' we would've asked. But, since you're 
throwing it into the ring (consistent), I'll have to ask for your evidence 
(you never did before, so do it now).

Since that data
has never been forthcoming, I'm forced to reject this assertation on
the basis of my personal experience and trends in the entertainment
industry.

  Your personal experience isn't evidence, remember? Where's your proof of 
the 'trends of the entertainment industry?'
  If you're going to demand such of the list members, then you're going to 
have to play the game, too.

I have yet to see consistency weigh heavily on the minds
of those producing derivative works when judging how well a product
will be accepted by the public.

  And likewise the other side.
  (I'd ask you to look at Beast Wars (a commercial derivative work), but 
then, you wouldn't know.)

It doesn't jibe if you KNOW what happened in the past.  There was a recent
case where a fanfic author put together his work with only another fanfic
serving as his primary resource.  *I* started writing fanfiction that
way, and consequently I never grew attached to this whole idea of remaining
true to the original.  I call it "correction."  What others call it, or
whether or not they even bother to justify it, is their business.  If
it sells, power to them.

  Fine.

I fail to see how the
omission of consistency with the canon constitutes a lack of
effort on the part of the author, or suggest laziness.  This
is a personal opinion, and nothing more.  No statistical data,
no basic evidence, nothing to back it up beyond a personal
taste.  My own objection demonstrates that it is clearly not
universal.

  Very well, then, a show of hands is in order.
  But then, your opinion isn't evidence, either. Back to square one.

Whether or not the author cares it's consistent is his prerogative.
However, you cannot say that the reader will react negatively unless
you produce to evidence to back that up.

  Yes he can. He's a reader.

You can say that YOU react
negatively, but you can't speak for others.

  Sometimes you can.
  (I find it somewhat ironic that you're speaking for a few people.)

  I can't wait for the day when subjectivity is objectified. Prez will be 
Pres then.

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--Razorclaw X
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Shattered Souls", "The Balance of Power".
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"I'm only one person. What can I do? A lot, quite frankly."


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