On 26 Jan 99, at 3:50, Phillip Masters wrote:
*Sigh* Another one. Does it ever hurt to be as ignorant as you? No...
no... I won't throw stones, and lower myself to your level.
But you just *did*...
I will be the
first to admit that this piece of writing is crap... and deserves to be
MSTed... however, you did so for the wrong reason! Yelling at this person
for bad grammer, sure that's all good... but yelling at them because you
think they are pedophilic is another story.
Without commenting on this particular MST or the host fic at the moment:
IMHO a MST that primarily zings the host fic's bad grammar instead of
things like OOC-ness, weird plot concepts, or what have you is going to be
a *very* boring MST.
Just who are you accusing?
Do you know the author of this fanfic? I once wrote a fanfic involving
Sasami, and it was hentai, and I was *14*!
The relative ages of the characters are not the sole criteria for
determining whether or not something is "pedophilic", however. That's
based much more on their absolute ages. A fourteeen-year-old having sex
with an 8-sai girl would certainly be considered child molestation just
about anywhere I can think of.
Sasami was the closest in age to myself at the time I wrote it...
And sorry to nitpick, but character age in TM! is a rather slippery
subject -- especially in the OAV series. However, if you take the
characters' ages given in the TV series as how old they'd be if they
hadn't been encased in crystal/in stasis/imprisoned in a cave/whatever,
Ryoko and Aeka are 17 and 20, respectively.
anyone who once accused me of such a
hideous crime understands when they hear that. After all, I'm the victim,
right?
Errrr, what?
I become the one who was influenced wrongly by the evil Japanese Anime.
That argument isn't going to go *anywhere* with me.
Another point I like to make, is have you seen Pretty Sammy any
time recently? This is supposed to be a kids show, right? Looks awefully
pedophilic in nature to me...
Perhaps, but that's much, much more a matter of how the viewer reacts.
After all, someone recently posted *Pokemon* <facefault!> hentai images to
abpe.anime recently, and I seriously doubt the original writers/artists
intended it to be seen that way. Don't blame the light for the way its
rays are distorted by the lens it passes through.
as well as a smattering of incest here and there.
Assuming you mean Yosho & Aeka: it's not incest until there's actual sex,
and I presume that wouldn't have happened until Aeka had grown up and
they'd married. At that point, yes it's incest but they're both consenting
adults and it's their choice.
No one protests... Pioneer is still releasing them regularly. My
final point rests in the fact that no publicity is bad publicity... I'd
never heard of the fic you MSTed until you posted it. Now, doesn't that
suck? Thanks to *you* I had to see the pedophilic material you so
blatently despise. Why? Why, if you hate it so, would you repost the
damn thing?! Why not just write a nasty letter to the author... or post a
public announcment, without the original content included?
This I somewhat agree with in principle, but then again, the pedo material
is less offensive to most folks in a MST context. Actually, that applies
to all forms of awfullness about a fic. Terrible spelling, shameful
grammar, blatant plot devices, what have you -- the MSTing makes it
palatable. After all, what you said could just as easily be applied to the
films shown on the real MST3K. "Hercules vs the Moon Men" and "Warrior of
the Lost World" certainly didn't merit any publicity.
Same goes for
those who MSTed my Sasami lemon... I agree, it's wonderful MST material...
the writing sucks... I was 14, give me a break. However, me getting
bashed over it because it involves Sasami is such a load of horsecrack.
Not as I see it. Granted, I'm very biased on this score -- Sasami lemons
are a personal peeve of mine.
Since I turned 18 I've never written anything involving Sasami... though I
have written some stories involving the children of Evangelion. They're
14 years old... four years under the legal age...
Not in Japan. IIRC, the age of consent varies by prefecture. In Tokyo,
it's 12. That's Tokyo-1; the laws in Tokyo-3 are open to conjecture.
yet, no one seems to
mind when Shinji is done by Misato... or Kaji finally lands Asuka...
That's partly because it's allowed in the legal sense (see note above),
and also in the strict biological sense -- both participants have passed
puberty, which is not the case for Sasami. As to whether it's moral...
YMMV, but as far as I'm concerned the question is whether or not the
person is aware enough of what they're doing to be able to consent. IMHO
Shinji and Asuka probably are, and Sasami definitely isn't.
And before you say "but what about Tsunami?", rewatch OAV#9; Tsunami
definitely withhold information from Sasami that she doesn't feel Sasami
will be able to understand.
it's all illegal in this country to write about by the letter of the law...
Last I checked, the Net wasn't a country, thank Kami-sama.
but no one says a word.
Rightly so.
Sasami gets some, and *bam*, you'd think WWIII had just begun.
Appropriate, since if someone *did* molest Sasami-chan, that's more or
less what the reaction of the TM! cast would resemble.
<Brief blur of energy sword. Ryoko hands the offender his severed
equipment before she, Aeka, Washuu, Mihoshi, Tenchi, and Yosho begin
making charred dogfood out of him...>