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Subject: Re: [FFML] Chi and ki: reality vs. fantasy
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1998 11:09:48 -0500
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First off, a correction to my original post, that didn't clarify 

something:

As has been stated, "ki" and "chi" are different pronunciations of the 

same

thing. However, there is a system (one among many, as there is no 

widely

accepted standard for defining the thing) in which ki is differentiated
into two types by applying two pronunciations. This is the system I 

prefer,

and the system on which my post was initially based. I'm not claiming 

to be

right, and I won't accept that I'm wrong until someone can prove 

otherwise

with any certainty. It's just one way of looking at it.

And, as always, my statements are not incontrovertible fact. They are
merely the results of my own personal research of the subject. Feel
free to dispute or disregard anything I have said.

No!  You are wrong!!!

Prove otherwise with any certainty. Until then, I reject this.

Look, it's very simple:  Chi in chinese = Ki in Japanese.  Same bloody
thing.  And ki isn't just fictionally based as any martial artist 

knows.

Okay, couple of things here:

Read my post carefully, please. At no time did I say ki is fictional. 

Nor

did I say chi is fictional. In fact, I rather explicitly stated quite 

the

opposite.

Nor did I actively dispute that chi and ki are described using the same
kanji, and pronounced differently in the two languages.

There are, however, two forms of ki. Differentiating between them 

becomes

simpler when applying two different pronunciations.

There are an infinite number of ways of channeling ki.  One is the 

Kiai,

There are not an 'infinite' number of ways of channeling ki. There are
many, but not infinite.

or a sort of shout that a martial artist will use at the moment of
attack to boost the energy he is getting out of it.  The whole
Dragonball thing is based around this (then stretched way out of

If you're referring to the power levels in Dragonball, you're close, 

but

not quite there. The kiai is not the principle means of increasing 

power in

Dragonball. Indeed, there are MANY means of accomplishing this: 

meditation,

training (ESPECIALLY training), coming from a race of beings who by 

nature

tend to attain high levels of power...

You will think!  You can't run from me!!!

Maybe not, but I can killfile you.

Sorry for the confusion.  I'm a philosopher and when I said infinite, I 
meant as the way I saw it.  Certainly there is no definite answer either 
way, but I figure that if the imagination has infinite possibilities, 
the uses of Ki are infinite.
And the whole "can't run from me" thing is just a joke.  I like to put 
them at the end of letters.


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