Okay time for my two cents. First of all this kind of dicussion between
contemporaries shouldn't be put up publically execpt for the initial
post. Second, who cares about any of this, I mean if ki and chi are
interchangeable in most situations then why all of this discussion over
wether it is real or not. Personally I believe in the existence of both
and therefore am getting bored listening to other people just argue for
the sake of arguing. The insanity must stop or I'll go even more insane. 
For the record I am NOT sorry for this little bit of spam so there.

						VIPER
						(aka Richard Burnam)
-- 
"You do know that I can kill you."
"So.  Kill me and you kill the only one you can talk to."
"I hate it when you're right."
"Aren't I always."