On Sat, 21 Mar 1998, Hunter Kid <guilds@mail.serve.com> wrote:

Brendan:

Uh-huh.  Right.  And you didn't answer my point, I notice.  Why not?

	Didn't I? The entire argument boils down to weather Ryouga did what 

he 

did out of selfish motives or not.  You're claim is that he didn't have 
selfish motives, he rather had delusions of Ranma forcing himself on

Akane.  I 

Not delusions.  From what he's seen, he's got every right to believe that
that's true.

	Only if he is very selective with what he remembers seeing and 
distorts that to near delusional levels.  Which is what I said.  Though not 
in enough words I guess

on the other hand have seen no signs of motivation beyond his Desire for 
affection from Akane.  

I'll name a couple, if you'd like.  Examples:  Japanese Nanniichuan, when
he absolutely doesn't want to go into the locker room and see the (mostly)
naked Akane.  Evil Oni - Takahashi didn't draw him in there looking ashamed
in the pictures for no reason, you know.  And as a more general statement
of evidence, every (IIRC) time Akane is shirtless, Ryoga doesn't attempt to
get a peek at her.

	Of course not Ryouga's the shyest member of the cast.  You're trying 
to prove he's not being P-chan out of lecherous intent, but that's not what 
he's being accused of.  Ryouga doesn't want to look at her, he wants her to 
act affectionately toward him.  THAT is the single thing that motivates him 
to be P-chan.  

Except for isolated incidents like when Happosei tried 
to disguise himself as P-Chan.

Here, let me ask you this:  when *has* Ryoga shown that he stays with Akane
at night because he's thinking lecherous/perverted thoughts?

	He hasn't and I never said he had.  I said that he wanted AFFECTION. 
 He stays  with Akane because he wants her to cuddle and make a big deal 
over him.  To act like he's more than a friend to her, even if it's because 
of a lie.

Hunter Kid
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   The older man, Genma, snorted.  "Believe me, boy.  The Conerians aren't
the brightest bunch around, but they know a Pravok name when they hear one.
One whisper of our real names to them, and we're goners."  He made a
gesture of a sword slicing through a neck, which was enough to quell any of
Ryoga's complaints.
   "Fine, fine," Ryoga consented with a sigh.  "I still think it's sort of
a dishonorable thing to do, hiding our identities and all."
   Genma smirked.  "Better dishonorable than dead, boy.  You'd best
remember that."
					 	-from Song of the Lute, 

chapter 1

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