Subject: Re: [FFML] [MST] [Icz/Tekno] Operation: Lightsphere - Phase 2, Chapter 2
From: Andrew Dynon
Date: 3/11/1998, 4:58 AM
To: "Teknos Warhammer" <teknoplus@hotmail.com>
CC: ffml@fanfic.com

Iczer-3: Andrew, the MST's been done!
Andrew: Better reply then, hadn't we? Who's our MSTing partner for this 
chapter?
I-3: FroM Nurse Angel Ririka SOS, Princess Mimina!
Andrew: First Queen Beryl, and then HER?  And Wharhammer probably doesn't
even know who she is!
I-3: Imagine Chibi-Usa with green hair, mind-reading powers, and Shampoo's
glomping habits.
Andrew: No thanks, I just ate.
{Mimina appears}
Mimina: Hi! I'm so glad I'm here!
Andrew: I wish I could say the same.

Location: Base Teknos, MSTing Theater
Residents: 3: Iczer-2, Salian, and Teknos Warhammer

[When we pan in, it appears that Iczer-2 is strangling WH.
I2: HOW DARE YOU KILL ME OFF JUST BECAUSE I GET OLD IN THE BALANCE!!

I-3: I didn't think Iczers got old.
Andrew: Neither did I - your big sister didn't seem to age between the first 
two OVA series.

WH: URK!!
{She breathes in and out hard, and then releases.}
I2: Well, at least you will finish it...
WH: Yeah.. in about 2000.
I2: I'd strangle you more if I could, but we got this fic to MST.
WH: Thank you... I think.
Sal: Be nice you two.]

I am going to begin incorporating elements of the "Golden Warrior 
Iczer-One"
manga (the first volume of which was translated into English by 
Antarctic 
Press - I'm not sure if the subsequent volumes even got drawn) in this 
chapter.  These elements will be heavily based on my speculations about 
what
would have happened in subsequent parts of the series.  If you're lucky, 
you
MIGHT be able to find back issues of the translated manga at your local
comics store, but I'll try and make it so that it's not necessary to 
have
read them.

[WH: HEY! I got those! {Rummages through his manga collection and finds 
the only one he has. #5.}]

Also, certain scenes in this chapter may be gorier than the standard 
from
previous ones.  You have been warned.

[I2: At least I get something out of this. I can just imagine whoever's 
getting killed as you.
WH: Hey!]

As always, any & all C&C NEEDED, MSTs especially welcome.

- she knew that he had reached his time limit, and was now going to be
turned into one of the Rhadam's brainwashed slaves.  Iczer-One touched 
her hand, trying to reassure her, but she snatched it away and glared at 
the android, angry at her for not letting her know how she felt about 
Nick being in danger.

[I2: {To iczer-1} *growl* Serves you right.]

I3: Hey, don't be mean to oneesama!

       Then, Shara saw Nagisa close her eyes and a relaxed, peaceful 
expression appear on her face.  She floated towards Nick and placed her 
hands 
on his shoulders, and for a moment Shara wondered if she had seen a 
brief
glow of blue light surround her cousin.  Then, her brother returned to
normal and Mizumi fled.  After that, the screen went blank.

[Sal: {imitating Iczer-1} Oh please say we can get the Sci-Fi Channel.]

Andrew: Something I wish we had down here.  As is, we're restricted to Trek
and Bab 5 at 11 PM.

       "Nagisa ... you did very well.  I ... don't know anyone else who 
could have managed that."  Iczer-One said - it seemed to Shara that the 
blonde 
android had forgotten her presence.  Then Iczer-One rose and turned to 
her.

       "You needn't have been so worried - the transmission you saw was 
>from a few days ago, by Earth standards.  If anything bad had happened 
to Nagisa - or
your brother - I would have felt it immediately, as would you."

[I2: {mumbling to Iczer-1} At least you died too...]

       Shara frowned.  "You should have told me that *before* scaring 
me to death."

[WH: {imitating Iczer-1} But it wouldn't have been as much fun 
otherwise.]

       "Shara, I promise to return soon."

[WH: ~ And if I had to walk the world, I'd make you fall for me, 
I promise you, I promise you I will. ~
{I2 pummels him into the ground just for the heck of it.}]

Andrew: What was the title of that song again?
*       *       *       *       *

       Nagisa recoiled in fear from the creatures that were trying to 
close 
in on her, to capture her and infect her body with the parasite which 
would
transform her into one of their own horrible kind.  The force field 
around
her was holding, but she didn't know how long it would last.  Nagisa 
held the 
little girl she had with her close, silently wishing that the child 
could be
somehow kept safe, even if she herself died.

[WH: Oh yeah! This is from I Fight: Iczer-1.
I2: *Snort* You would know.
WH: Hey!]

Mimina: Andrew, this scene's scary! {GLOMP!!}
Andrew: {Ranma's patented "help-me-I'm-being-glomped" look}
I3: Hey, don't you only do that to Seiya?
Mimina: But he's not here!

       "Mommy!  I want my mommy!"

       "It's all right.  Your mother's gone far away."  Nagisa lied, 
knowing that the girl's mother had been one of the monsters' victims.

[I2: Oh why bother, just let the girl down and tell her that her mom's a 
meat salad.]

       {Even if I don't survive, I've got to protect Sayoko.} Nagisa 
thought 
to herself.  {But what can *I* do?  How can *I* defeat these monsters?}

[Sal: {smiling} Being cannon fodder is good!]

Mimina: I bet Seiya could beat them up!

       A sudden realisation began to dawn on her, restoring her 
courage,
strengthening her resolve. {Power... I need to find power, forces 
stronger
than theirs!}  Then, that realisation, the realisation that she was able 
to
help protect the planet she lived on, truly entered her consciousness.  
She
wasn't afraid any more, and she was going to let her attackers know it!

       "ICZER ROBO!!!!!"

[WH: {squeaky voice} Crush them now, Giant Robo!
{Both Sal and I2 pound him into the ground.}]

Andrew: Never seen that anime.

       The next thing she knew, Nagisa was sitting bolt upright in bed.  
Opening her eyes, she saw the sun had not yet risen, and so she remained 
awake in her bed, thinking.

[Sal: {Imitating Nagisa} I'm sitting in something wet.
WH: That was sick!]

       {That was... was it me?  It felt so much like... no, it can't 
have 
been.  But it was so similar... I understood it... I'm sure I understood 
it
in my dream, but now I can only remember bits and pieces.  
"Iczer-One"... 
that's... that's the name of the woman who sent me that vision... how 
does
she fit into this... I wish I understood more.}

[I2: You can't. Because I'M not there!
Sal: Someone's in a bad mood.]

I3: I thought oneesan was ALWAYS in a bad mood.

       She continued to sit, thinking, wondering, as the sun rose and 
gradually filled her room with the light of day.

*       *       *       *       *

       "Hey, Tina, what's up?" Star asked as the new Iczelion 
practically rushed into the lounge with a huge grin on her face.

[Sal: {imitating Tina} I got the part for the Cheshire Cat!]

I3 {Tina voice}: Maybe it wasn't a good idea to eat those "Joker brand" 
lollies.
Mimina: You mean Dark Joker?
Andrew: No, but just as sick.

       {And then there's me.} she added.  {I don't have a family.  I 
never 
knew my father, and I was so young when my mother died...} She had only
vague memories of her mother, among them her kind, smiling face, red 
hair,
and a  vague memory of a first name... something srarting with "R"...  
"Rebecca"? No, that wasn't it.  "Raye"?... Not quite - something like 
it, though. "Rachel".

[I2: If this 'mother' of Star's is a certain sailor suited miko bitch, 
then I'm REALLY gonna be pissed.
Sal: Think of your heart Iczer-2.]

Andrew: I didn't think Iczer-2 HAD a heart.

*       *       *       *       *

       Raban blocked an enemy Teknoman's attack with his sword, and the 
impact
almost jarred the weapon from even his hands.  Rather than entering a
strength contest with hos foe, he rolled backwards, and his enemy's
teknolance passed over him.  He then swung his sword, which bit through 
the
armor on his enemy's lower leg, but inflicted no serious damage.

[WH: {imitating the injured Teknoman} ARG! You have any idea how long it 
took me to get this shine!!]

       Mira was doing little better - her enemy was not making the 
mistake of
allowing her to gain distance and throw her Miiruha [A.Notes - This is 
the
name I have given to the bladed metal boomerang she uses] and she was
reduced to evading the Teknoman's attacks.  And Raura was faring worst 
of
all.  As a Prime Iczelion and the princess of Ishua, the enemy Teknomen 
had
decided that it was vital for her to be eliminated.  She was being 
attacked
by two of them at once, and being badly beaten.  To make maters worse 
for
the Ishuans, a fifth Teknoman was hanging back in case any of his 
comrades
needed assistance.

[I2: Is it wrong that I'm glad this is happening?]

I3: Yes, but then again you wouldn't care.

       One of the Teknomen's fists slammed into Raura's body, knocking 
her to the ground and stunning her.  She opened her eyes to find him 
standing over  her, teklance pointed at her chest. "Now you die, 
Princess of Ishua."

[WH: {Imitating the teknoman} Now, I will force you to listen to every 
song the Spice Girls ever made, AND watch the movie!!! BWA HA HA HA!]

I3: Could be worse.
Mimina : How?
I3: Ummm... force her to watch Wedding Peach?

       Before he could stab down with his weapon, however, a bolt of 
blue 
light slammed into him, sending him staggering backward.  Raura felt 
herself
picked up and carried away from immediate danger - her rescuer was a
blonde-haired woman in a red bodysuit.  She set Raura down a couple of
hundred meters away, and turned back towards the ongoing battle.

       "Raban, Mira, I suggest you withdraw and take care of Rau... 
Princess
Raura."  Iczer-One said calmly.  "I am quite capable of defeating the 
Teknomen."

[Sal: {shifty look} I wonder why she stuttered.
I2: {To Iczer-1} YOU TWO-TIMER!!!]

Andrew {sly smile}: Not exactly...

       "If you're foolish enough to think you can beat us," one of the 
Teknomen replied, "then we'll be happy to let you try."  

       The five teknomen converged upon Iczer-One, who waited, 
suspended immobile in the air, until the teknomen were almost within 
melee range.  Then, so quickly that her enemies could barely see her, 
she summoned her beam sword
and sliced through two of her attackers' bodies.  The next Teknoman was
decapitated a second later, and she kicked the fourth in the chest,
shattering his armor and torso.  The final one threw his teklance at 
her,
which she caught and broke in half before she ran him through. 

[WH: {groveling} Oh Great Goddess of War, The Almighty Iczer-1, I 
worship thee! {WH is slammed into the ground by a snarling Iczer-2.}]

I3: Warhammer, you should have known better than to say things like that when 
my other big sister's around.

       "Princess, are you all right?"  Raban asked.  Raura groaned in 
pain.  
       "I ... will live." she replied.  "Thank you for helping us, 
Iczer One."
       Iczer-One just smiled at Raura's words, while the pair of 
generals helped their princess to her feet.  After some time, she spoke.

       "Princess, I believe I should meet with Queen Aura now."

*       *       *       *       *

       By the time Tina embarked from the aircarrier she had been 
travelling from the Command Center in, it was almost sunset.  The place 
where she'd
contacted her family didn't exactly *look* like the cheeriest place in 
the 
world - full of dark gray stone houses packed close together and only 
having
small, high-up windows.  The chilly, creepy atmosphere of the settlement 
was
further perpetuated by the forest of alien spore-plants which grew 
around
it, and, Tina knew, would eventually bloom and entrap humans, turning 
them
into Rhadam slaves.

[Sal: {with a hand to the side of her head} Oh, what to do? What to do?]

         But none of those factors could detract from the happiness she 
felt 
at the knowlege that members of her family were here - {Even though 
Blade
*could* have been more honelstly happy for me.} she thought {really, he 
can
be such a stick-in-the-mud sometimes}  She had been seperated from them 
in what 
was maybe the very first attack on Earth by the Rhadam forces, and saved 
and
adopted by Commander Jamison, who, discovering her talent for computers 
and
communications equipment, had made her a member of the Space Knights.

[I2: Geez, not even D-Boy can get me out of my downer!
WH: Now that's a change.]

       She was about to knock on the heavy, wooden door of one of the 
buildings when the door opened, and she saw a boy slightly older than
herself, with the same dark brown hair and blue eyes, dressed in jeans 
and a
red pullover.

       "Ryan, I've missed you so much!" Tina practically screamed with 
delight as she hugged her elder brother.  "How's Julia?  And everyone 
else?  Are they
all here?"

       Invisible to the young space knight, a figure watched, smiling 
wickedly.

       {New Iczelion, you seem so happy to be reunited with your 
family.  I would like to see how you feel after I've done what I plan to 
do with them.}

[Sal: {Mock shock} Whoever it is will dress them in leiderhosen and 
force them to dance to polka, oh the humanity!]

Mimina: They wanted to force them to attend a Spice Girls concert, but 
Iczer-2 said that was too inhumane.

*       *       *       *       *       

       "Greetings, Aura, Queen of Ishua."

       "Greetings, Iczer-One, Guardian of the Kthulhu." Although 
Iczer-One and the aged Ishuan queen's speech was formal, there was 
something about the way 
the two acted toward each other that gave an impression not of formality 
but
of friendship.

[I2: ***SNARL***
{Both WH and Sal creep back.}]

Mimina: I'm scared! {GLOMP!}
Andrew: GET OFF ME!

       "Aura, it has been a long time since we have seen each other."

       "Seventy years, more or less." Aura replied.  "And I am certain 
you felt my younger sister's death."

       "I felt it very much, Aura, and the second-greatest regret of my 
existence is that I could only be with her in spirit and not body during 
her last days."  
       
       {Equal second, actually.} Iczer-One added silently.  {I have the 
exact same feelings about Nagisa Kano.}  She knew Aura understood, even 
without telling her.  As for her the *greatest* regret of her 
existence... nothing 
could bring shame to her moreso than the fact she had killed her own 
sister.

[I2: 
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!
{Trashes the theater, tearing out the seats, breaking windows, tearing 
down the walls, and doing quite a bit of damage. Where as WH and Sal 
hold on to each other and pray for the end to come soon.}
Sal: You think she's upset?]

Mimina: YAAAAAAA! HELP! SAVE ME! PLEASE! {***SUPER ULTRA GLOMP ATTACK!!!***}

       "Iczer-One, as you know, that was only the end of her life, not 
of her
existence - her spirit was reborn in Younger Princess Raura the Fifth."  

       Iczer-One thought bact to the time of her awakening - escaping 
>from the
Kthulhu ship, falling to Ishua, meeting Amu and being led to the refuge,
where she had met a young girl dressed in the fine clothing of an Ishuan
princess - a girl who, as soon as they saw each other, had said five 
words
to her:

       "Iczer-One... you frighten me."

       And despite the fear the girl had felt, there had grown a 
friendship
between them - no, more, a love between them - that Iczer One had only 
felt 
for one other.

[WH: No comment, on account that I'm no good at commenting on scene like 
this.]

*       *       *       *       *

       For some reason, Tina just couldn't sleep.  She had been so 
thrilled to see her family again - especially her older brother Ryan, 
and her younger
sister, Julia - and had enjoyed spending the evening eating and chatting
with them so much that for the life of her she couldn't understand the
nagging feeling she had that something was extremely *wrong*.  Tina got 
out
of the bed and stretched, and then turned the light on.  Maybe if she 
went
and got a glass of water or something it would help.

       Tina turned as she heard a yawn from the bed next to her own.  
"Julia?
You're awake too?"  

[I2: No I'm sleep walking, WHAT DO YOU THINK?!?!?!?!]

       Her younger sister stood up and cleared her light brown hair 
>from in front of her eyes. "You woke me.  What're you doing?" 
       "Just going to get a drink."
       "Can I come with you?"
       "Okay."

[WH: Extreme water getting, next on ESPN5.]

       As the pair travelled along the hallway to the kitchen, Tina's 
sense of
apprehension grew more intense.  In the darkness, she heard ... no, it 
must
have been her mind playing tricks on her, but she thought she had heard 
a
cracking noise, like an animal feeding on a dead body, breaking the 
bones to
get to the marrow inside.

[Sal: William Conrad got to the freezer!
WH: {Imitates Ryan} Hey, stop eating me, I'm still alive!]

Mimina: Urk, that's disgusting.

       Then, she screamed in horror, as she opened the kitchen door to 
see Ryan's body, a foot-wide hole ripped in his chest, blood and 
entrails lying
scattered on the floor.  Julia let out an even bigger scream, but Tina's
mood quickly changed from horror to anger.

[Sal: {Imitating Tina} I was supposed to do that!]

       Space around the sisters shifted, the house they were staying in 
being
replaced by monochrome, square pillars of varying sizes.  Tina 
transformed,
while Julia began to cry in fear and confusion.  Then, man-sized 
creatures
began to appear - green-skinned, covered with slime, tentacle-faced and 
very
much resembling the things Tina had read about in the H.P.Lovecraft
compilations Jamison had kept in his library.  Everything about them 
made
Tina want to throw up, but she steeled herself and summoned her 
beam-glaive.

       {Iczel, what the hell are *these*?}

[WH: Leonardo DeCaprio on a bad hair day?
Sal: Spice Girls on a GOOD hair day?]

I3: All Andrew's unused fic ideas self-evolved into hideous mutants?
Andrew: HEY!

       {Parasite beasts - "Bedem" is the proper name.  I had no idea 
the enemy
still made use of them.}

[WH & Sal: Oh.]

       {Well, they just killed my brother, and they're gonna pay!} Full 
of anger, Tina immediately and mercilessly sliced through the monsters 
with her
beam-glaive.  Soon, the last of the things had been killed, and the 
subspace
dimension faded, restoring her to proper dimensional space.

       {Ryan, at least I got those bastards for you.}

       {Tina, they may not all be gone.}

       "But that means..." Tina exclaimed aloud.  Grabbing Julia, she 
teleported into the room where her parents were sleeping,  and 
immediately froze in horror at the sight of their bodies - the torsos 
looked to have exploded.
Unable to control herself any longer, Tina burst into tears.  

[Sal: And you get hayfever, what a rotten day.]

       "Mom!  Dad!  Ryan!  Why did they do this to you??" She collapsed 
to her
knees, crying with an intensity that had only barely been approached by 
the
time she had been separated from her family in the Rhadam attack on her 
home
city.

       {Tina!} the Iczel sent. {I can still detect a human life sign!  
There's
still someone the Bedem didn't get to!} Tina's eyes cleared, and then 
she
homed in on the scource of the life sign and hurried towards it.  
Somehow,
she knew who it would be even before she entered the room - her 
grandmother,
Sayoko.  As Tina entered the room, Sayoko turned towards her, and Tina
caught sight of a silver-colored bracelet her grandmother was wearing.

       "Just like so many years ago." Sayoko said to Tina.  "The 
bracelet
protected me."

[WH: ACK! Reference to Fight: Iczer-1. 
I2: Yes, and because of that stupid bracelet that brat didn't die.
WH: Well, either way, she still would have lived in the end.]

       "What do you mean?"

       "When I those creatures attacked me, my memory of... of a time 
when I was very young was brought back.  Creatures like these have 
attacked Earth
before, but everyone's knowledge of it was - how should I put it? - 
covered
up.  Somehow seeing the Bedem restored my memory."

[Sal: HOW?!?]

Andrew: Well, the memories were buried, and her being placed in a similar
situation uncovered them.

       "You mean aliens invaded Earth before this, and nobody knows?  
Tell me what happened!"

       "I can't tell you much, only what happened to me." Sayoko said 
regretfully. "But I'll tell you what I know.  I hope you find it 
helpful."

       The Bronze Iczelion listened silently as her grandmother 
recounted her
experiences during the previous invasion.  Surely, she thought, it 
couldn't
just be coincidence that Nagisa Kano and her granddaughter were both so
vital to the Earth's defence in the invasions.  How as Iczer-One 
involved in
this?  Why did nobody know the prevoius invasion had happened.  There 
were
just so many questions...

       ... but she decided she wouldn't worry about the answers any 
more than
necessary.  She was more concerned about what she could do to help.

[Sal & WH: ~ Help! I need somebody, Help! Not just anybody, Help! ~]

*       *       *       *       *

       Energy seethed through the spore pod, and pockets of liquid 
bubbled up
under its surface, almost immediately shrinking back away to nothing, 
and
making the alien plant (if it could truly be called such) seem to inhale 
and
exhale.  The energy gradually built up, and then the pod exploded in a
shower of pink slime, revealing a black-and-red-armored humanoid figure.
The figure laughed, not maniacally, but coldly, cruelly.

       "I hope you're afraid, brother.  I now have the power to crush 
you once and for all."

[I2: Well, at least there' Evil here to cheer me up a bit.
WH: Don't bet on it, it's his only scene this chapter.
I2: AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!! {Slams WH into the pavement 
several times.}]

***********

END PHASE 2 CHAPTER 2

       NEXT CHAPTER:  I think you can all guess which villain's gonna 
get some
more "screen time".  Also, Shara gets a "gift" from Iczer-1, and another
major character gets her turn at some action!  See ya soon!

[Sal: Do I smell a reference to a certain fic?]

Andrew: Yes. Hopefully Warhammer can control his ego swells this time.

       AUTHOR'S NOTES:  It keeps getting harder to write this as it 
goes on, and I don't think this was one of my best chapters - I'm glad 
it's out of the way. In particular, I didn't like how the scenes with 
the parasite beasts turned
out - I guess I'm not very good at writing horror.  Hopefully I can make 
up
for this with my next chapter.

[WH: Hey, I'm not totally satisfied with all my fics, save for Ragnarok, 
it's standard if thing don't always turn out the way we want em Andrew.]

       Now, story notes.  Firstly, who recognised where Star's mother's 
name came from?  If you didn't, don't worry, but I used it because I am 
thinking of
writing a crossover in this continuity someday that will involve the 
series
in question and Sailor Moon, as well as maybe other series (actually, 
I've
got the outline of an entire thousand-year-plus history in my head, but
that's not going to be done for a great deal of time).

[WH: Oh, it wasn't Rei/Raye?
Sal: Mind telling us in private? The reason being that Teknoboy here 
won't be around much longer.]

Andrew: The connection was mainly done as a joke/spot-the-reference (although 
it MAY be an element in that fic - it was Rachel Summers from the X-Men 
comics.  I put it in because of what I THINK is a Marvel reference in Star
and Ringo's surnames.  That and the fact that the Summers family tree is
probably complicated enough that it can reach into any series you can name ;-)

       Second, yes, compared to the "Golden Warrior Iczer One" manga, 
the Ishuan generals may seem a little overpowered (although Raban *did* 
take on a void and win).  I'm assuming that as part of the initial "aid" 
given to Ishua,
Iczer-1 and the Kthulhu enhanced the generals' weapon skills and psychic
abilities to the point where they were able to go one-on-one with a
Teknoman.  Also, these are NOT the same people as in the Iczer-1 manga.  
I'm
assuming that the generals' "names" are actually titles conferred upon 
them
when they are achieve said rank.

[Sal: Now that seems logical and a good idea at the same time.]

       Finally, when I said there was a "love" between Iczer-1 and 
Raura, I 
did not mean in a sexual context.  I was trying to indicate extremely 
close
friendship, which was sometimes meant by "love" in Shakespearean-era
English.  Unfortunately, in modern times, the word "love" has come to be
almost inextricably linked with sexual attraction, and AFAIK there is no
word in  modern English for "deep friendship" (I may make up a Kthulhu 
word, though)

[I2: Be my guest Dynon, just don't mess it up, or I'll have to kill you.
WH: That's your answer to everything isn't it?
I2: Your point?]

       Thanks for reading and see you next time!    
       
[WH: Good fic Andrew, can't wait for the next chapter... if I'm still 
here that is.]

Andrew: I'll start on it right away - are you still gonna be here in two
weeks? If so, that's what I'll aim for!

I3: And I'm gonna get some action then!

Andrew: Oh, now you've gone and spoiled it.

I3: Gomen nasai.

All: MATA NE!!!
_______________________________________________________________________________
"You are born with the yearning arrow, my Glynna.  It is not a happy thing
to possess... It points to the stars, and when it cannot reach them, it falls 
back to pierce your heart."
	- Wind (Isobelle Carmody, "Darkfall")

Andrew Dynon
- Eternal champion of the Iczer series
- Fan of Sailor Moon, Devil Hunter Yohko, 
     Teknoman, and many other anime series 
- RPG Player of Mekton-Z, Fuzion, AD&D and more
- Writer of fanfiction and original Sci-Fi/Fantasy
- Loyal supporter of the mighty Essendon Bombers (Australian Football League)

"Too many bakas."
- Hoshino Ruri, Nadesico (many times)