Subject: Re: [FFML] Re: [C&C][*OF* C&C] Douglas Helm's Mama's Hand
From: David Johnston
Date: 2/5/1998, 6:12 PM
To: ffml@fanfic.com

The Eternal Lost Lurker wrote:

about this story to me before; in point of fact this is the first
feedback
I have recieved from him. I am as yet left to wonder why Mr.
Davies hates
me so much and would attack people who are obviously enjoy my
story.

Well...I can think of a reason.  Those rather overblown plans to torture
Endymion make me...uncomfortable.  Sadism is sadism, and even though
these sadistic fantasies are, I suppose, just intended to applaud the
author's success in making them despise the villain, there is a tone
of gleeful anticipation of someone's pain that makes the "review" 
character little different from the Endymion character.  I find it 
rather unnerving, particularly when it is not characterised as the
reprehensible behavior of a villain.  


Perhaps because this story is horribly out of tone with the series
and
puts many of the characters through hell?

With all due respect, this sad, pointless argument about the tone of
the series in fanfiction is already old on RAAF. Please don't drag it
onto the FFML as well.

He has express the my characterization of Mamoru is wrong, well
need Mamoru
be expressed in one way continually for every peice of
fanfictions? No, as

Mamoru should resemble the anime or manga Mamoru, or else one isn't
writing about Mamoru, one is writing about some other character
entirely
named Mamoru.  The same applies to any of the other characters.
While
there's always room for interpretation, one can reach a point where
the
characters are no longer recongizible in behavior.

I'll say this much: the characterization is *believable*, given the
evidence presented in the fanfic. Mamoru is *human*. He's not
infallable. He's not perfect. He's human, which means that given the
circumstances of this fanfic, his actions are believable.

Actually, I don't agree.  Oh, I can see Mamoru being (or at least 
becoming sadistic, hateful and evil).  I just can't see him kicking
someone to death or bloodying his fists.  

The Mamoru in Mama's Hand is a movie of the week stereotype abusive 
husband.  That's not catastrophic because Mamoru isn't particularly 
important to the story.  Rather he's a plot device for the development 
of Usagi's character and that of the alternate Chibi-Usa.  But the 
Mamoru of this story has more of a divergence from his prototype than 
one being evil while the other is good.  

1.  Mamoru's cruel streak is more psychological than physical.  An
evil Mamoru would certainly have spent a great deal of time convincing
Serenity and Chibi-Usa that they were cowardly, ugly, and stupid.  Oddly
while Chibi-Usa is firmly convinced that she is a "bad girl", her self
image isn't all that bad apart from being obsessed with showing that
she isn't willful or disobedient to her father.  She spends no time
worrying about stupid her pink hair looks, or how she isn't bright 
enough to do the simplest things, the kind of the thing I'd expect from
someone subjected to real abuse by something like the "real" Mamoru 
gone bad.
Of course psychological abuse can escalate into physical abuse, but
the _kind_ of psychological abuse that Chibi-Usa has endured isn't the
kind that Mamoru seems likely to be handing out.  In fact I wouldn't
be at all surprised if Mamoru instead treated Chibi-Usa with a fair
degree of niceness, using her as a tool to abuse Serenity by training
her to hold her mother in contempt.  

2.  Similarly, the kind of physical abuse that Endymion/Mamoru hands out
seems rather out of character.  The first thing we know about the 
real Tux's approach to violence is that he doesn't like to get his
hands dirty. An evil King Endymion's motto ought to be, "Let the flunky
do it, while I watch."  Chibi-Usa should have a nanny with rather severe 
ideas about discipline, who would not only provide the required abuse, 
but would also tend to reduce the influence that Serenity would have 
over her own daughter.  In Serenity's case manipulating her into doing
things to herself by use of her lack of self-respect and fear for 
Chibi-usa would be even better. 

For these reasons, reading Mama's Hand it has always been my assumption
that Endymion isn't really Mamoru.  Now it appears that Mamoru isn't
Mamoru either, and I feel that weakens my connection to the story. 
 

If an author  can't write a fanfic using a recognizable
characterization
of the characters, they need to find some other set of characters
who WILL
do what is needed for the story without bending them into pretzels.

If that were truly the case, half of the best fanfiction out there
would not exist.

Part of the point of fanfiction is to explore possibilities not dealt
with by the original author.  However, Mamoru's theatrical turn as
an abusive husband seems intended more to shock than to explore.