On Thu, 13 Nov 1997, Ranma Al'Thor wrote:

  Both Ranma and Ryoga (to a lesser extent) affect probability.  Also, they
are from another universe so they may be truly free agents vis-a-vis
ta'averen.

I would argue that once their threads are woven into the pattern, then
they would be bent by Ta'averen.  They may themselves be Ta'averen at
home, but even Ranma is not nearly as strong a Ta'averen as Rand, who can
reshape the destiny of an entire city just by physically present.  And if
Ranma and Ryouga didn't become part of the pattern, they'd be like the
Dark One, unable to touch the world directly, I suspect.  Even when the
Bore was open, the Dark one couldn't just roam around the world and say hi
to people :)

Ranma is definitely Ta'averen, but we have little evidence to think he's a
stronger ta'averen than Perrin or Mat at best, given he's only reshaped a
few dozen lives, while Mat and Perrin have bent far more lives to follow
their thread (Band of the Red Hand, Perrin becoming lord of the Two
Rivers, etc, etc.)  

	I'm not quite certain about this... Ranma and Ryouga might be a
Ta'averen's Ta'averen.. the sort of Ta'averen that affects _other_
Ta'averen. A contradiction in terms, I know, but it's a possibility, given
the level of co-incidence that affects people who are _themselves_
instigators of high-level co-incidence in Nerima. Who judges the judges?
*grin* Who screws up the screw-ups?

	An interesting idea, to say the least, whether it works in WoTland
or not. The idea of a _meta-Ta'averen_. 

	Hehehehe...

Now, if Rand and company came to Nerima, it would be another story.  They
probably wouldn't be Ta'averen at all there, and they'd likely be lucky to
not all end up being beat to pieces :)

	I gotta agree with you here, Biles... Rand would probably get
thumped all out of recognition.

	By the way.. do you have insurance? I wanna see if your pushing me
into the Spring of the Drown Fanfic Author is covered. Maybe I can get a
settlement? A brand-new Sun station with a dual 400 Mhz Alpha chip for my
home system? *grin*

	Ed Becerra

	"Dreamers may die, but the dream is eternal..."