At 08:04 AM 7/11/97 -0500, Keener wrote:

Mark Doherty wrote: 

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Bubblegum Crisis - Frozen Knights
A BGC/Batman:The Animated Series
           crossover
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But I beg of you, if you are convinced into doing this story... don't
have Batman, or any of his heirs, in it. Somehow, I think having a
(necesarily tech upgraded) Batman in this story would ruin it. An old
Wayne, perhaps, but an active Batman? It seems wrong.

	Here I dissagree. Batman, as both character and comic suffers from much
of the same problems Anime does. It long since stopped being a simple
comic and spread into a multitude of genres each with their own merit.
Stii, all anyone ever remembers is BOFF! POW! BAM! Even the movie is
taking that turn, going from Go-Go dancers of the seventies to the MTV
generation of today. Remember what Frank Miller (writer of The Dark
Knight Returns) said... "Here you have a character you can describe in a
few simple words, he's parents were murdered in a violent crime, he
spends the rest of his life waring on crime. He looks great and his
concept and design is so simple that it's open to an unlimited amout of
interpretations." 

It is not what I remember. I remember the dark Batman. The Dark Knight Returns,
The death of the second Robin, Bane, even the 50th anniversery comic, the one 
where Batgirl gets shot(er... it's got Joke in the title or something. I'd 
have to dig into my comic collection to find it). I wasn't brought up on the 
campiness of the 60s show. (Not that it wasn't great. 'Ever had a day when 
you just couldn't get rid of a bomb?' Hah! Love it! Or better yet, that 
episode with the 'Batdance'.)

	Hmmmm, dead parents, a hopeless feeling dealing with pain and not being
able to doing anything about it. Finally recreating yourself into a
persona that was anything BUT helpless. Sounds like HALF the Knight
Sabers. All in all, it depends on how you wanna play it. This IS
MegaToyko and not Gotham so if you don't have any plans on using him,
DON'T. It'll just turn into a mess. If you do however, don't be afraid,
make him or her or it work for your POV on the story and the events
therein. 

Like I said, an old Wayne, sure, but I believe Batman himself would detract. 
Obviously, it's up to RPM, but my opinion stands unchanged. Besides, you could
always work it that the KS _are_ the 'Batman' of the future, in that Wayne
funds them, or nominated Sylia as heir in the past. It all seems to be 
pretty unnecessary to have Batman to make a great story out of this, 
however. Ahhh... what does it matter? I'll wait to see a full story before 
I comment any more.

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