Subject: Re: [FFML] Questions: SM and M.H.Yokho
From: Shachihoko
Date: 5/13/1997, 1:06 PM
To: Mike Noakes
CC: Fanfic ML <fanfic@fanfic.com>

On Tue, 13 May 1997, Mike Noakes wrote:

	First:
	The first moon kingdom - when did it collapse?  How much is known 
about the Earth kingdom that Endymion came from?  And Beryl, powered by 
the supernatural Metallia - whe was from Earth, too, right?

	There are differing sources on the end of the Moon Kingdom. DIC's
import put it one thousand years ago; other sources (Japanese series) say
it was *two* thousand years ago. I go with the two-thousand-years figure.
	I'm not clear on 'where' the Dark Kingdom was, physically,
although it seems to have been somewhere (underground) on Earth.

	And if I remember - the assault on the moon kingdom was from 
Earth, backed up by various demonic forces - or am I wrong?  Any word of 
what happened to the other planetary kingdoms?

	All I know is that the other planetary kingdoms were destroyed; I
don't have details here. And it was a Dark Kingdom assault on the Moon
Kingdom, not exactly Earth . . . although Earth was falling under the
control of the Dark Kingdom before Queen Serenity sealed Beryl, Metallia,
et al away with the Ginzuishou.

	Second:
	Yokho - 108th (?) demon-hunting descendant, current in a long 
line of mamono slayers (BTW, what's the diff. between a youma and a 
mamono?).  Is it ever said who was the first hunter?  Who established the 
line?  Why?  Are there other family lines of demon hunters?  A good page 
where I can read up on this stuff?

	Devil Hunter Yohko 6 has something to do with the first of the
Mano line of Devil Hunters; I haven't seen it (unfortunately) so I can't
tell you more than that from experience. I would suspect that there are
other families of Devil Hunters; I'd check DHY 5 (since Yohko has several
allies in that one) and see if you can pick out anything useful . . .
	Or check around the Web, but I don't know where any DHY pages are.
You might want to check the anime index on Yahoo, though - there are a
number of anime pages listed there.

(Trivia note: If you're working by generations, Yohko should actually be
the *109th*-generation Devil Hunter of the Mano line. Her mother, Sayoko
(?) would have been 108th, but disqualified herself before she became a
Devil Hunter.)

As to the difference between a youma and a mamono . . . 
	Linguistic question. They're written with different kanji, and
thus the meanings are slightly different. Referring to JWP, Mamono means
goblin or apparition; Youma means *ghost* or apparition. Slight
difference.

WARNING! It gets spammy from here as I dismantle the two words and check
the individual kanji, but the main question is answered above.

	<multi-tasks to JWP and opens the dictionary>
Referring to Jim Breen's Japanese-English Dictionary in JWP for the
compounds, and Hadamitzy/Spahn's _Kanji & Kana_ for individual kanji:

Mamono: "goblin, apparition"

ma - demon, devil, evil spirit
	Note that this kanji is part of "Akuma," devil - and is also used
in "Majutsu" or "Mahou," both of which mean magic: not necessarily evil
magic either, in fantasy anime! (Incidentally, "jutsu" = art, technique;
means, conjury, while "hou" = law.)

mono - object, thing
	This may be the same as in "Bakemono," monster.

Youma: "ghost, apparition"

you - very young; infantile, childish
ma - (same kanji as in Mamono) demon, devil, evil spirit

	<JWP crashes in the middle of this process>
	Aw, nuts . . . ;.;

Granted that linguistics don't always bear much relationship to the real
meaning (didn't we have that discussion about word derivations and roots
some time back?) . . . but there is a difference.

	Sorry for the extra spam, but I hope it was enlightening.

				Tim Miller
					trmiller@mail.bcpl.lib.md.us

Kanji Hunter Shachihoko Seikousen
Amateur Nihongo linguist/translator
Otaku at large - specializing in BGC, Slayers, assorted others
Author of the Shuriken Cycle (and various other works in progress)

"This is real life . . . it's not SUPPOSED to make sense!"