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Urgh. How to start.<lotsa thinking>

Well, the first time I read this 'fic I skipped both lemon scenes, thinking they
were sick. Little later I started thinking and asked myself some questions.
Then I read the 'fic again, this time fully through, and now am trying to
put my thoughts into words. 

*nod*

What questions did I ask myself? Lets start with them.

1. Was this 'fic any more sick than the ones that have lesbian love scenes?

First I thought ABSOLUTELY YES!, but after some time I've come to the
conclusion,
that it cannot be, becouse basically a lesbian love scene and a gay love
scene are
the same thing, just the sex of the participants change.

Hai... this is why I think it's rather silly for people to ask for a lable
for [yaoi], but not for [lesbian] or [bondage] or [chocolate and
hedgehogs] and [OOC] and whatever else people may thing up to put in
'fics.

That's why I said something similar to the ML, while I had just started my
'fic.

After I had answered that question another came into my mind.

2.Why did I think it was more sick than the (pretty common) lesbian scenes
all lemon
fics seem to be full of?

This was a hard one to answer. I think the answer is: becouse I am a
heterosexual male.
>From my POW male-female and female-female love scenes aren't that sick,
becouse my own
sexual preference is for women, so male-female scenes are totally normal. It
was harder
to find out why I don't think female-female scenes as sick. I think it is
becouse I could
think myself jumping into it. Other reason is "there are girls making love
in this scene. I like
girls myself, so it's not repulsive"-attitude I have deep inside me. On the
other hand, when I 
read the lemon scenes  in this 'fic I was repulsed, becouse it portrayed
(hope I'm using the 
right word...) a love scene I could never think myself in. I think I would

I've heard similar things from other guys who've written to me about my
'fic. (Though no girl has written anything, as of yet, that I've seen.)

It's funny, but I can write male-fem and fem-fem because I can at least,
as a girl, have some insight as to what it would be like. But it was
much harder for the yaoi lemons, as it had nothing to do with a female
at all.

That's why I think it strange that guys can just write fem-fem without
even having any basis for experience, what so ever (apart from maybe
watching some hentai videos).

I can't imagine myself having anything to do with a male-male thing, yet
I could only try and write it, and see what people thought.

I just don't understand how guys can throw off fem-fem things like they
were taking part in them all the time, or something. (Although they do,
very often, get the females acting anything but what females would act
like...) But I guess that those type of 'fics were there just for the
sex, and the authors didn't care too much about if they were acurate or
not. But when I posted my 'fic, I was worried in case that it wasn't all
that accurate, or whatever ... but then, it was heavily romantisised, as
are all the rest of my 'fics.

be similary repulsed by sado-masochistic scenes, but since I've never read
one I can't confirm my hypothesis. 

If I wrote one, I'd romantisise that, too. :p  I hate pain, so if I did,
it wouldn't really be S&M, more like just domination without items of
torture.

I think this is the main reason most people on FFML think gay 'fics are
repulsive and horrible.
They are hetero-males themselves and probably have an attitude similiar to
my own. (Of course, since
I am no mind-reader I can't say for sure)

I'd say that a lot of the responses agree with what you said.

thinking these things made me realise a third thing. 

There is this fellow named Ralf König. He is a German (I belive) comics
artist who 
writes and draws gay-comics. While I'm not a König-fanatic I still like his
comis quite a lot.
(no, you don't have to be a gay to like his comics ^_^) I found that I was
much more repulsed 
by this story than König's comics, and started to wonder why. 

In the end I came to the conclusion that I was more repulsed by this,
becouse the lemon scenes were
romantic, while in König's comics the love scenes are just sex acts. They
show a gay sex, usually 
quite a brutal one (a quick fuck in an alley), nothing romantic like in this
one.
I've read enough of König's stories to get used to the scenes there, but
this was quite a different one.
And I was repulsed. 

Hmm... I've seen, and liked, a yaoi-type shoujo manga that's to do with a
pedophiliac raping a boy who stays at his house, and the guy is into SMBD
and killing people and other grusome things. But I like it, and it's
probably because it's got a pretty good plot going, interesting characters
and the way the scenes are drawn, it's more ... I don't know ... soft
focus, instead of hard and graphic.

Maybe it's just a difference in the way girls like things and the way that
guys like things, even though it's a similar topic. Generally, girls like
things romanticised. (Although I'm sure that a lot of guys read romance
novels, they were written for girls!) And it's the porn videos that are
sold to the male market, and I'm pretty sure that they don't have much, if
any, romance in them.

The 'fics that I've read where Ranma goes after a guy have all had Ranma in
female form. Although they're gay 'fics, because Ranma is a guy, and was
raised as one, and thinks of himself as one (no matter what the body is, and
how long he's stuck in female form), it's just ... like the writers wimped
out on writing true male-male. So I decided to see if I could write a 'real'
male-male one, where the characters are both male in the love scenes.

Personally I could have lived without this 'fic, since answers to those
questions weren't really
easy, but I think it was a good thing this story was written, since it made
me think. Hope I wasn't
the only one.

Thank you ...

And no, you weren't the only one.

I'm sure a lot of you who usually read my 'fics'll probably be totally grosed
out by this, but it wasn't made to grose people out ... more like to see if
I could write yaoi without blancing like the rest of the 'gay Ranma 'fics'
seemed to have done.

Well, Kun-chan. It seems you were able to write a gayfic. Happy now? ^_^

Heh... well, when it finally gets edited and cleaned up, etc, I think that
I'll be happy. Though seeing the normal time between me finishing the
first draft and me posting the final version - that could take months!

Ah, well ... now it's off to post my first draft ... and to see what, if any,
reaction occurs on the ML. ^^;

Well, I think this post is little more than just two cents. So you really
got at least
one reaction.

^_^

One thing about the story itself:IMHO that
(almost-)solve-every-relationship-in-the-series thing
should have been left out. It was too much a clichee and had nothing to do
with the actual purpose
(as I see the purpose of this 'fic) of this fanfic. 

Hm... some people liked it, and some people didn't. Though most seemed to
like the bith with Shampoo trying to sort out her feelings. (And if I cut
out Ukyou, I don't think that the Ukyou fans would be too happy... but
then, they don't like her as the later version of Ukyou, a la final manga,
so... I could cut the Ukyou thing. But I'm leaving in the Ryouga and Akari
thing, just because Akari needs some fair treatment in a few more 'fics!
^_^ )

Kun-chan...