Subject: Re: [FFML] [Lemon][Ranma] Ranma no Hentai! ...? (First draft! C&C please)
From: Jussi Nikander
Date: 1/28/1997, 10:32 AM
To: Caroline Seawright
CC: fanfic@fanfic.com

At 01.46 28.1.1997 +1100, you wrote:

<SNIP story>

Urgh. How to start.<lotsa thinking>

Well, the first time I read this 'fic I skipped both lemon scenes, thinking they
were sick. Little later I started thinking and asked myself some questions.
Then I read the 'fic again, this time fully through, and now am trying to
put my thoughts into words. 

What questions did I ask myself? Lets start with them.

1. Was this 'fic any more sick than the ones that have lesbian love scenes?

First I thought ABSOLUTELY YES!, but after some time I've come to the
conclusion,
that it cannot be, becouse basically a lesbian love scene and a gay love
scene are
the same thing, just the sex of the participants change.

After I had answered that question another came into my mind.

2.Why did I think it was more sick than the (pretty common) lesbian scenes
all lemon
fics seem to be full of?

This was a hard one to answer. I think the answer is: becouse I am a
heterosexual male.
>From my POW male-female and female-female love scenes aren't that sick,
becouse my own
sexual preference is for women, so male-female scenes are totally normal. It
was harder
to find out why I don't think female-female scenes as sick. I think it is
becouse I could
think myself jumping into it. Other reason is "there are girls making love
in this scene. I like
girls myself, so it's not repulsive"-attitude I have deep inside me. On the
other hand, when I 
read the lemon scenes  in this 'fic I was repulsed, becouse it portrayed
(hope I'm using the 
right word...) a love scene I could never think myself in. I think I would
be similary repulsed by sado-masochistic scenes, but since I've never read
one I can't confirm my hypothesis. 

I think this is the main reason most people on FFML think gay 'fics are
repulsive and horrible.
They are hetero-males themselves and probably have an attitude similiar to
my own. (Of course, since
I am no mind-reader I can't say for sure)

thinking these things made me realise a third thing. 

There is this fellow named Ralf König. He is a German (I belive) comics
artist who 
writes and draws gay-comics. While I'm not a König-fanatic I still like his
comis quite a lot.
(no, you don't have to be a gay to like his comics ^_^) I found that I was
much more repulsed 
by this story than König's comics, and started to wonder why. 

In the end I came to the conclusion that I was more repulsed by this,
becouse the lemon scenes were
romantic, while in König's comics the love scenes are just sex acts. They
show a gay sex, usually 
quite a brutal one (a quick fuck in an alley), nothing romantic like in this
one.
I've read enough of König's stories to get used to the scenes there, but
this was quite a different one.
And I was repulsed. 

The 'fics that I've read where Ranma goes after a guy have all had Ranma in
female form. Although they're gay 'fics, because Ranma is a guy, and was
raised as one, and thinks of himself as one (no matter what the body is, and
how long he's stuck in female form), it's just ... like the writers wimped
out on writing true male-male. So I decided to see if I could write a 'real'
male-male one, where the characters are both male in the love scenes.

Personally I could have lived without this 'fic, since answers to those
questions weren't really
easy, but I think it was a good thing this story was written, since it made
me think. Hope I wasn't
the only one.

I'm sure a lot of you who usually read my 'fics'll probably be totally grosed
out by this, but it wasn't made to grose people out ... more like to see if
I could write yaoi without blancing like the rest of the 'gay Ranma 'fics'
seemed to have done.

Well, Kun-chan. It seems you were able to write a gayfic. Happy now? ^_^

Ah, well ... now it's off to post my first draft ... and to see what, if any,
reaction occurs on the ML. ^^;

Well, I think this post is little more than just two cents. So you really
got at least
one reaction.

One thing about the story itself:IMHO that
(almost-)solve-every-relationship-in-the-series thing
should have been left out. It was too much a clichee and had nothing to do
with the actual purpose
(as I see the purpose of this 'fic) of this fanfic. 

BTW:If you got some ascii-s**t in Ralf K.'s name the second letter should be
a o with dots on
the top. If I remember correctly it is called o-umlaut.

I think that was everything. Hope I made some sense.
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