Subject: Re: [FFML] [C&C][Info]Slashtooth's semi Daily Revi
From: Sebastian Weinberg
Date: 9/27/1996, 6:44 AM
To: Slashtooth@evnet.com
CC: Fanfic Mailing List <fanfic@fanfic.com>


On Thu, 26 Sep 1996 Slashtooth wrote:

: bastian@enterprise.mathematik.uni-essen.de wrote:
: > 
: > Well, it seems that for some people it's a *tremendous* problem to
: > send reply mail to someone other than the original sender.  Do you
: > all have such crappy software, or are you just plain too lazy to
: > change the To: header?
: 
: Ummm, three points here.  First, I am pleased about the change in the
: list.  Sending C&C to the authors is actually a good way to cut down
: Spam.  Second, I have sent stuff to the ML, it is easy for me to send
: stuff there.  Third, I am using very good software, thank you very much.

Well, first, this ML *specifically* exist so that C&C can be done
in public, to encourage open discussion of points made in it.  The
change was made to cut down the spam, not the C&C.

Second, I wasn't talking about you *personally*, but just took your
message as a prompt to vent my opinion.

Third, I wasn't talking about you *personally*, but just took your
message as a prompt to vent my opinion.  ;)



: > Another effect of this is that my personal mailbox keeps filling
: > with FFML messages, because *lots* of people apparently just hit
: > "Reply All" to Cc: to the ML, and the crude filter program on this
: > computer does not recognize that.
: > 
: > If hitting "Reply All" is the only way for you to send it to the
: > ML, your software is BROKEN!  Complain to the manufacturer. :P
: 
: Actually, I have not seem very many, if any, examples of recieving mail
: twice.  If this is my software filtering out these double messages, then
: it is something that came preset, because I have never set it.  I have
: never used the reply all button, and can see no real time for me to use
: it.  I guess that means that my software isn't BROKEN.  Just better than
: I thought.

I wasn't talking about doubled messages, but about the fact that
messages that are directed at the original authors and only Cc-ed
to the ML turn up in my personal mail folder, as opposed to in my
FFML folder.  This is not anyone's fault, but rather a problem of
*my* software here, since it does not support sorting mail by Cc:
header.

I just wanted to point out that messages Cc-ed to the ML have been
increasing in number since the change, making me think that a lot
of people who *really* want to post to the ML are to lazy to set
the To: and Cc: headers accordingly and just hit the "Reply All"
button.  It's nothing that I'd get overly heated about - I just
wanted to make the point.

I hope you don't mind that I Cc-ed this to the ML again, since I
wanted to say this in public.


Sebastian (Who distinguishes between SPAM and meta-issues)
-- http://enterprise.mathematik.uni-essen.de/~bastian/ Comics reviewed.
-- It's easier to get forgiveness for being wrong than forgiveness for being right.