Subject: Re: [FFML] Give it s @!#&$)*(@&# rest!!!!
From: Martin Bennett
Date: 6/24/1996, 11:32 PM
To: fanfic@fanfic.com



SOMEONE HAS SINNED! DEATH! DEATH TO THE UNBELIEVER! 
THEY HAVE DARED TO ANGER MISA-CHAN! 

Time to get out the pitch forks and have us a good
old fashioned lynching!


On Mon, 24 Jun 1996, Marisa Price chiseled:

Ok, this is coming from Misa, who never gets pissed 
about ANYTHING, and I am finally REALLY mad. How can
you people treat each other like this?! If you keep
up all this slamming on each other, the list is just
going to end up like the Ranma list: a bunch of flames
and nonsense. One of the things I like best about this
list is that the people are so NICE, and that WW really
cares about the list and takes the time to help us all
with any problems we have. People take the time to
read each other stories and comment, compliment, and
criticize. Also, there is a bit a bantering spam.

There's nothing wrong with the bantering SPAM of course
(in moderation)


SO WHY THE !($*(@!)*#$ do we need to start ripping on
each other?

Looks like a clash of ego's to me. While I haven't read 
Jack's fic, and I don't intend to, I would never dream of 
bagging him for writing in a style I don't like. It's 
important to remember that we're all supposed to be friends 
here... The aim of the game is CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. Not
personal bashing!


So you don't like Jack or Jack's stories, Aaron, but
there is absolutely no reason to start flame wars.
The original letter written expressing dislike for
Jack's stories was clear and understanding, not at
all a flame. THAT was an appropriate letter.

Methinks that Jack has become something of a 
sacrificial to this topic. I wasn't on the list when 
Twister began Twisted Path, but it seems to be in a 
similar vein from what I gather, and I have yet to see
anyone bagging Twister for his effort. 


I know that you don't like Jack or his stories, but
there is no reason to make it a public hate war. 

Too right! Keep it nice, people!

Everyone is entitled to follow their muse, and if
that is his, so be it. If you don't want to read
his stories, DON'T!!!! I absolutely despised BGC
stories and I delete probably every single one that
comes into my box, but I am not offended that they
were posted!!! The whole point of this list is to
share our stories... that does not mean that 
anyone is REQUIRED to read a story. If it offends
you, delete it!!!

Here, Here! I don't read the BGC fics either, but
that doesn't mean they don't have a place. I'm sure 
there are people on this list who DO read, and enjoy 
them. IF there is ONE person who does enjoy them 
(BGC or Jack's or whatever), then they have a right 
to be here. SO THERE!


        I have some people who really don't like 
MY story, and I have received a lot of negative
criticism from certain individuals; however, not
ONE of them has told me to stop writing it. And
even if they  did I would probably say, "screw
you..."

I can't think what would be in their heads....


If you don't want to read it, delete it.

Words from the wise!


The internet is a FREE space (and let's keep it
that way), and so is this ML.... if you want
to start making requirements on stories, please
put up a petition with your ideas and let WW
and all of us consider it. Don't assume that
your feelings are the feelings of everyone.

Net freedom is very important. And so is freedom 
on this list. If people are afraid to post for 
fear of the reaction, then irreprable harm has 
been done to the group as a whole and that would 
be a real shame. 


And, Aaron, as to your inferences that I "have
gone to the dark side" by being nice to Jack,
and your insults on the IRC, I would just like
to say that you don't know me and you have 
absolutely no right to place judgments on who
I chose to be nice to.

Is it possible to set up a petition to get Aaron \
tossed off the list?


If you asked anyone you would find out that I
am nice to EVERYONE, regardless of who they are.
I only am not nice if someone does something to
offend me personally. You have pretty much done
that, hence this letter. So, I would like to ask
you to leave me out of your little personal 
vendetta, and to remember that this list is for
FAN-fics, and if that is the way that Jack choses
to write them... so be it.

(P-word shivvers a Misa-chands righteous anger)


        I read his story, it was ok. Not the best
thing I have ever read, but he is only 16 and this
is his first fic!!! I have read a LOT of stories 
that I might not like all that much, like the 
overall basis of "The Prince and the Lecher" 
sorta offends me, but I edit it for Todd because
he is a good writer and deserves a chance to show
his muse. However, remember if you don't like 
it, delete it.

Another good point. Writing skill is something that
comes from maturity and experience (intelligence 
helps too, of course). Jacks young and it's his 
first effort. Some of my early efforts were partic-
ularly hard to look at. It's a case of there being
not enough smoke to cover the flames...

When the egos run wild, you can bet trouble will 
follow. Personality clashes always lead to disaster!


Sorry.... I just had to get this out.....

S'okay. It needed to be said.
 

misa-not-so-happy


P-word. (preparing to devour the internal organs of 
         those responsible of angering Misa-chan and 
         ruining the mood around here!)

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