At 00:18 5/13/96 +0100, David wrote:

I'm finding it rather interesting that of the people responding to
PhoneyNT's original question about what makes rape so bad (and subsequent
thread drift), the females/female-online-personas seem to be rather strongly
in favor of nasty punishments for rapists, while those coming out against

Perpetrators of nasty crimes deserve nasty punishments.  I'd be in favor of 
delivering such punishments in cases where *absolute* proof that the convict 
*is* such a perpetrator exists...

those nasty punishments (stating that they are excessive/cruel-and-unusual
punishment/against the US Bill of Rights) while still saying rape is wrong

...but since U.S. law doesn't see the difference between absolute and 
probable proof, I'd rather see life imprisonment than nasty punishments set 
as the precedent for both.  Details in the next post....

are male/male-online-personas...

I hope this won't turn into a "he said, she said" type thing (two-way 
discussions get simplified and polarized way too quickly).

I think no-one deserves such a thing as that. You say no-one deserves rape
which I agree with. However no-one deserves having their sexual organs
destroyed in such a foul manner either. It gives people some idea of how bad 

Well some people deserved a *lot* worse, such as Hitler, Stalin, etc., but 
we're not discussing genocide here.  Now back to our regular thread....

female because Men Don't Get Raped.  This is false but it permeates even the 
American and Anglican culture imagine how bad it would be for Ranma who 
believes this far more strongly than we do.

(yes I am male obviously. Imagine if someone hacked(and I mean hacked) off 
your breast's females. That is almost as bad as castration. You can no more 
understand us having our testicles cut off than we can rape.)

As you just pointed out, the statement that "Men Don't Get Raped" is *not* 
true.  

You can imagine what rape is like about as much as I can (and yes, I'm a 
girl).  In the U.S. (I'm not sure about other nations), half of all rapes 
are done to male victims.