Subject: Re: [C&C] [FanFic] Survival Posit : Robylon 5 #01
From: Travis Butler
Date: 2/26/1996, 6:12 PM
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CC: "Neoculture" <aubry.thonon@qed.qld.gov.au>

From:        Neoculture, aubry.thonon@qed.qld.gov.au

Sheridan:	Have Zeta Squadron put on stand-by.  If these ships get too
		close before moving off, I want them turned into plasma.

This doesn't quite ring true. [...] Two 
hours would seem like plenty of time to scramble enough fighters and 
shuttles to pull the ships away from the station -- assuming the ships 
aren't *huge*. 

Those ships *are* huge (at least the REF and Meltran ship are, with the 
Mordred at ~1.5 Km in length and the Meltran ship ~4Km)  The Invid ship 
is small by comparison.  WHich is why I didn't consider it possible for 
"nudging" by outside forces.

Hmmm. I'll grant that... but it probably should be acknowledged, at least 
on the B5 side. Perhaps something like this:

"Can we scramble enough ships to push them away from the station if we 
have to?"

"Negative. We might be able to help one ship, but not all three. They're 
just too big, and we don't have enough ships."

I just find it hard to accept that the B5 crew would decide to blow them 
up without making some attempt to solve the problem another way. :)

Which brings up another thought... I'd expect to see more attempts at 
communication from B5, even if the attempts weren't answered.

(I admit I'm not familiar with your three ships; I haven't 
read [or found] any of your earlier stories. Gomen.)

And previous stories can be found at FTP.STD.COM (plug, plug)

All right, all right... plug accepted. :) What are the titles?

		who questions the order.  Maybe this will prompt the others
		to obey.

Again, I'm not familiar with the ships or your characters; but it doesn't 
seem quite in Zentraedi character to simply abandon ship without making 
*some* attempt to save her. I'd also expect some discussion of what their 
situation will be after they abandon ship -- do they expect B5 to rescue 
them, and what will they do to build back up again? (This is another 
point that might be answered by the earlier stories -- if the Zentraedi 
are working together with the Mordred, they might be expecting 
rescue/help from them.) 

Hmm, lets see if I can explain this without giving too much away.

A proper zentraedi fight invovles going down with the ship.  Repairing 
the ship does not even come into consideration unless we are talking 
minor repairs, the Zents just simply ignore the damage until such a time as 
they can go into a repair facility.  The Meltran captain is abandoning 
ship, which is something a Zent would normally not consider, and is 
questioned about it.  By this time, most Zentraedi have been tainted to 
some degree by contact with the humans, and this is reflected in the 
captain's explanation.

Hmm. I admit my major exposure to Robotech is the McKinney novels, and 
I've already seen that most people here don't consider them canonical. 
^_^ Certainly they're presented in the novels as not being able to repair 
the ships themselves... but if they have been "tainted" by contact with 
humans, I'd expect them to pick up at least the desire to repair, if only 
so they can fight longer. ;> I just find it hard to accept they'd put 
themselves at such a disadvantage so easily; I'd expect them to fight to 
the last minute to save the ship, since losing it puts them at someone 
else's mercy.

and yes, you are right... The zentraedi *are* expecting outside help once 
they abandoned their ship - but not from Bab5... it's just a convenient 
staging area.  more as the story develops.

Ah-heh. I see. <evil g>

Garibaldi:	Oh no, Londo.  I'm not lending you any money.

This exchange sounds like something out of B5's first or early second 
season -- by the third season their relationship is *very* strained 
(remember the scene between them when Londo returns to B5 in "The Long, 
Twilight Struggle"?), and Londo wouldn't need to borrow money (remember 
Londo paid Garabaldi back when his fortunes had improved, as a friendly 
gesture?). This bit might work better if you set it back in that period, 
depending on what you have planned with the Shadows.

Hmmm, I haven't seen any third series yet (I just got the first few 
episodes last night - gimme time  ^_^ ) so all of these interactions are 
speculation.  Londo *didn't* ask for money, I just took it as an 
automatic reaction from Garibaldi.

There are two main episodes I'd look at, both from Season 2. "Acts of 
Sacrifice" is where you see how Londo's status has changed among the 
Centauri -- he's now a VIP, but the other Centauri just value him for the 
favors he can grant. He tries to get Garibaldi to sit down for a friendly 
drink, but Garibaldi acts curt with him until Londo explains how he 
doesn't have anyone to really share his good fortune with -- except 
Garibaldi. Good character bits. "The Long, Twilight Struggle" is the 
climax of the Narn-Centauri war -- and when Londo comes back to B5 from 
the Centauri homeworld, Garibaldi meets him looking very grim. 

I might have to change all that.

Might not be a bad idea -- at the least, you could set it earlier in the 
story, when Londo was still a more-or-less comical figure, not the dark 
figure we see after "Coming of Shadows."

I'd drop this scene completely; Kosh doesn't sound right, and you could 
probably get the same effect simply picking up with Sheridan coming back 
from talking to Kosh.

I think I'll follow that suggestion.  I wasn't very happy with the scene 
in the first place.  Let's face it - the only good Kosh around is 
Ardwright Chamberlain.  ^_-

Indeed. <wry g> I've tried several times to write a good Kosh scene, and 
never came up with something that sounded right.

I'm sorry, this is all sounding like criticism, and I don't intend it 
that way; I really like B5, I appreciate how difficult it is to write in 
that work, and I admire you for trying. :>

And I'll keep trying until I get it right.  Oh well, only two (three?) 
more Bab-5 chapters before I move on to another setting...  Robo-Files, 
anyone?  ^_^

Not. ;> 



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