Subject: [FFML] Re: [RANMA] [ALTERNATE] [IDEA] [FREE] ? (Here Comes Kitsune)
From: RaeMowse@aol.com
Date: 1/4/2001, 3:04 AM
To: ayonge@yahoo.com, ffml@fanfic.com

In a message dated 1/3/01 10:16:18 AM EST, ayonge@yahoo.com writes:



Hi,

 To celebrate finally(I hope)

 getting my new HD up and 

 running I'm going to C&C

 this "idea" ^_*

 

 1)Ideas, in and of themselves,

 aren't worth much.

 For instance . . .

 I've got an "idea"

 for an Iron Chef/Battlebots

 Ranma/SM fusion. ^_^



Usagi vs. Akane in a death match cookout LIVE ON NATIONAL TELEVISION!! ^_^



  It's what

 you DO with the idea . . .

 

 

 Bring the characters to life, put

 them in interesting situations,

 get the reader involved----THEN

 you might have something.

 

 2)Well----I think almost everyone

 has been killed off in the Ranma-verse

 at one time or another. IMO, the

 Ranma-gets-shot isn't very interesting.



Plus, pending on the country where Ranma got shot, it may not be very likely 

at all.  For example, biting the bullet (pun intended) in Japan will 

oftentimes cause the suspension of disbelief you're asking of your readers to 

fall really quickly.



 And Ranma's got enough sisters to field

 a woman's hockey team. ^_*



So many sisters (that remarkably look just like him if he was born a girl) 

you'd think you walked onto the set of NGE by accident (yep, that's a hint of 

spoiler for NGE).

 

 (There's NOTHING wrong with any of

 this, it's just been done. Therefore it's 

 HARDER to do it well. There are so

 MANY bad examples to overcome.)



True.  There isn't much in the way of original ideas, so we have to reinvent 

a concept to make it look fresh.



 3)Competing for the right to "teach"

 fits well with martial arts traditions. IMO

 start with this. There isn't any need to kill

 Ranma off, unless there is some plot-point that

 demands he be removed/replaced.

 HOWEVER----there are other options.

 

 A)Ranma got "swapped" for the new girl.

 Or, Genma pulled a scam and picked up the

 wrong baby on the way out of town. (Fits

 in with Anime/manga)



Which reminds me...



I do have an idea for such a story you're mentioning.  It involved using the 

Kaori Daikoku story from the anime.  Here, Genma swapped Ranma for a bowl of 

rice and two pickles, then suck back to Daikoku-san's campground and hastily 

made off with his son.  Only thing is (the twist!), it's not Ranma he took, 

but Kaori!  Going back to the grounds, Genma discovered that the spot has 

been vacated of all life (in other words, Daikoku took Ranma with him).  

After hours of hunting hunting for him, Genma doesn't find them.  Imagining 

how his wife will react, Genma comes up with a brilliant (to him) idea--raise 

the girl as if she was Ranma (while he searches for son, of course) and hope 

to the gods Nodoka never notices the difference should the two meet!



Years go by, and the old opening happens, only this time, it's a guy with 

long, fiery hair duking it out with a panda.  Skim to the Tendos, and 

Nabiki's practically throwing herself at "Ranma" though he looks a bit too 

ill-at-ease.Akane challenges him to a fight (mainly to get him out of their 

house--she do not want this *boy* to make a play for her).  Fight 

results-"Ranma" wins, though it's closer than the normal beginning: that 

haymaker just missed its mark, for a reference point.  Anyway, Kasumi comes 

in, sends Ranma to the bath; Nabiki sends Akane to the bath; Kasumi and 

Nabiki converge and realize they made a terrible mistake and go to the bath 

to prevent a murder only to find Akane and a girl having a conversation 

(though the girl looks ill-at-ease).  When asked for a name, the strange girl 

replies "Ranma."



Everything starts to go to Hell from here.



Questions, and later accusations, are thrown about which brings Genma (who 

mysteriously shows up) into explaining.  And explain, he does, weaving a tale 

to baffle the Tendos (note, he never explains the switch-a-roo he botched 

up), and silences "Ranma" whenever he tries to say something.  After 

explaining, which they all bought, either because they believed that 

outrageous lie, or found it too complicated to try to sort out and chose to 

accept it, the fiancee subject is brought up.  Automatically, Akane has been 

pushed forth as the sacrificial virgin.  Genma and Soun are happy, Akane's 

very upset, and "Ranma" looks as though she's going to faint (changed to girl 

somewhere in the explanation).



=DING DONG=



Kasumi answers the door and is greeted by Daikoku-san and a young man.  She 

allows them entrance, and Genma panicks upon seeing the guests.  Daikoku sees 

"Ranma" and hugs her at once, calling her Kaori as he does so, then mention 

that she and her fiance can be married at last.  Tendos are once again 

confused, then the young man that had accompanied Daikoku-san introduces 

himself as Saotome Ranma, Kaori's finace.



The reaction: All Hell breaks loose.  Kaori faints. Genma tries to hide, but 

is forced into explaining this new development, and they're not buying his 

story.



This story could go in any number of directions.  The biggest difference is 

that it's not focussed solely on Ranma (which some people will find to be a 

refreshing change of pace), so readers get to learn about Kaori's difficulty 

with everything that's happening to her.  Being raised as a guy for almost 

all her life is certainly a stumbling block (or mountain, depending on how 

your see things).  There are also other elements that may be or would be 

affected.  For example, Ukyou may or may not have went to live the life of a 

guy, depending on whether or not was he fooled into thinking chibi-Kaori was 

a boy all along.  Ryouga's story could be entirely different as well.  

Possibly, Tsubasa could make an appearance, chasing after Kaori like he had 

chased after Ukyou in the original story.  Also, some matter might not have 

occurred at all, which can change opinion of a character.  Is Genma really 

such a bastard that he would subject a girl to the Nekoken training?  How 

different is Ranma after being raised by Kaori's father?  There are so many 

possibilities for this kind of story, it doesn't have to run along with canon 

(it probably wouldn't either after the first night).



...err, I guess I'll just move on the the next comment... methinks I rambled 

on a bit too long on this one.

  

 B)Ranma became a pacifist after the

 cat-fist training and is living in a 

 monastery in Tibet. 



Don't think I've ever seen that kind of fate to befall Ranma.  The closest I 

can recall is a Ranma/Eva crossover called "For The Children."



 C)Ranma was last seen accelerating

 over the mountains into

 Mongolia  with an angry piglet

 closing fast at Warp 8. ^_^



[snicker] 



 "Sister" is a bit too . . .cliched, IMO.



I think it's a little overused, too.  If someone counted the number of 

sisters Ranma has ever had in fanfic-dom (minusing the extras that share the 

name, e.g. Ranko), there probably would be enough to start their own Amazon 

nation.



 Stick with it if you must, but think

 about options . . .niece, adopted, kidnaped (swapped)

 etc.



There's nothing wrong with the sister approach.  Just be careful not to make 

her a carbon copy of Ranma.  It helps to establish what kind of personality 

does Kitsune have.  Perhaps she loves her father dearly and it shows, or 

maybe she's extremely devoted to honor (Hagakure (The Book of the Samaurai) 

is part of her daily life).  It could be possible that Kitsune relies on 

weapons in her brand of Anything Goes.  Some little quirk helps to make 

characters memorable in the minds of your readers.



 I'd concentrate on the "fight for the right teach" bit

 and get to that as quickly as possible. And, is this

 going to be a drama or comedy? I'd also be careful

 about having a "slam-dunk" for Ranma's "sister"

 wining the fight. The idea that Ranma (or surrogate)

 always wins (and so easily in may fanfics) removes the

 dramatic tension.



Like removing an appendix with a claymore.



  In fact, it might

 be interesting to have her fight through

 all of the sisters, starting with Kasumi as

 the eldest.  There are a lot of possibilities----



Kasumi: [surprised] You wish to fight me?



Kitsune: Yes.



Kasumi: I'm sorry, but I'm not a martial artist.



Kitsune: Well tough cookies, honey.  You can't refuse a fight, unless you 

like slinging mud on your honor.



Kasumi: ....



 the success of this "idea" depends upon

 the execution.  IMO, write about 30-40KB

 and post to FFML. That should be

 enough to give readers an _idea_ 

 of what's going on.



 The important thing is

 to write WHAT you want,

 the WAY you want.

 Don't worry too much about

 "ideas", and certainly don't worry

 about what I or anybody else

 has to say. Write the story YOU

 want to read and you won't go

 wrong.

 Good luck. 



Ditto.  Speaking of which, I have a story to work on.  Later...





Keep on writing.



Adrian D. Rainman







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