Subject: [FFML] Re: [fanfic][Ranma/GL] Bedlam Fire chapter 1
From: allyn yonge
Date: 12/3/2000, 12:01 PM
To: Gary Kleppe , ffml@fanfic.com

Hi,

sorry this is so late, but between

your earlier advice on "writers block"

and the jolt I got from all the goodC&C

on Chapter 1 of BF I managed another

56KB, so I'm at about 97% on the 

story. ^_* <thank goodness>



--- Gary Kleppe <kleppe@mediaone.net> wrote:

Haven't read much of the other C&C on this, so I may

be repeating the

same corrections as someone else. No matter --

onward!



@@I appreciate the effort.



Allyn Yonge <ayonge@yahoo.com> wrote:



(Note: Green Lantern #16  provided the inspiration

for this

story. However only the colour green remains.)



No lantern? :)



@@Only that one time with Tojo-san.



    Zhang, the necromancer, turned the stone in

his hands. 

It wasn't really stone, but then Zhang wasn't

really his name.

Not the one he'd been born with decades earlier,

thousands of

miles away in the black forests of Germanica. 

Before the

servants of the murdered god had driven him from

his home.

Thin bloodless lips curved in a  small, almost

smile, recalling



Suggest 'a thin almost-smile,'	(doesn't seem right

as written)



@@OK, I see what you mean.



    Stretching hugely he took a sip from his mug,

grimacing



hugely, he



(I noticed this when I did the oral reading of

"Yellow Tiger" at

AnimeFest last year: You use quite a lot of "Doing

X, he did Y" type

sentences, and also tend to forget the comma between

the two parts.)



@@Comma . . .comma . . .That word seems

strangely familiar. Isn't that what happens

after a blow to the head?

(I've been holding off with the rest

of BF until my wife (the one who actually

knows how the English Language is put

together) can  proof the story))

{she LIKES to diagram sentences}





<SNIP>

 Pushing aside his mug and plate he began

gently

removing the dark outer crust with a mixture of

diamond dust

and fat rendered from murdered children.



Yes, if he doesn't kill babies for the sheer

pleasure of it, he isn't a

Yonge villain. :-)



@@Errrrr, thanks?

(He's a NECRO-mancer. It's in the 

job descritpion.)



    The ancient necromancer was indifferent to

worldly

comfort now, the last of his human desires had been

burnt



Run-on sentence.



@@If it weren't for

Run-on sentences I wouldn't

get any exercise at all. 



 <SNIP>



    "An Amazon?" Zhang said meditatively,

splitting his

attention between the boy he'd been systematically

preparing

for weeks and the star-stone he'd lived with for

decades.

"Ahhh . . .was she a blond?" He let the child's

baby fine hair,



BOY: A Chinese blonde? Whaddaya think, she uses Miss

Clairol?



ZHANG: Shut up! This is anime! You aren't allowed to

question such

things!



@@^_^ Actually there have been found a number

of light skinned, fair-haired mummies at the "top of

the world".  And, even now, if you look carefully, you

can find a few people who don't quite seem to fit

the ethnic "standards". Beside,I'm assuming the 

Amazon nation is based on ideology

and survives by strengthening the gene-pool with

adoption. 



<SNIP>



with his left hand, the long blond hair and tatoo

easily

recognizable despite having been  peeled from the

living skull. 



BOY: Um... no, her cheeks weren't quite so wide,

and....



@@LOL! 



<SNIP>





with spear and sword and arrow.  And striking, die.

Each

warrior as helpless against the emerald fire as a

naked infant



Suggest: warrior was as helpless



@@ How about::

Sick at heart Adalwolfa watched her Amazons strike

with spear and sword and arrow, and striking,

die--each

warrior as helpless against the emerald fire as a

naked infant



(I dragged my wife out of her sick bed for this one.

^_^)





<SNIP>



And as she left the very last temple, the clouds

suddenly opened, and a

booming voice called out, "FORGET IT, LADY. HE'S

TOAST!"



@@ROTFLOL!!!

It's a good thing I didn't have you pre-read this.

I'd have gone off in a much different direction.

{Oh my, I'm getting a VERY strange picture

in my head.}





    Everyday his breathing was a little more

labored.



Every day



(As one word, this is used as an adjective, e.g.

"This was not your

everyday Japanese kid.")



@@<sigh> What can I say? I know

how it's _supposed_ to read. Stupid

WP keeps putting down what I type

instead of what I mean.



<SNIP>

declaring that his fate was beyond modern medicine.

And

perhaps beyond even the help of the gods. 



And besides, the kid didn't have insurance.

@@LOL!!!



Tell you what, why don't you write a

comedy based on this? I'd try, but

I'm laughing too much to type. ^_^

 

<SNIP>



    "Your prayer will be answered!"



"Really?"



"Yup. The answer is... no! Sorry about that!"



@@<eeeeeeeeeee> Stop, my sides hurt. ^_*

(I may never be able to get back in the mood

to FINISH this darn thing.)



<SNIP>



son, she



    The future prime minister of Japan returned

the hug

weakly as the rising sun filled the room with a

ruddy light, like

new spilled blood.  A new day had come to

Hiroshima.



    *life*



    And the second seal shattered.



A few days later, the kid was flattened by a bus. Go

figure.



WOMAN: Hey! He said it was 1894!



ME: Oh. Accidentally stabbed to death, then.



WOMAN: That's better.



@@ROTFOTDLOL.



<SNIP>



    "Let me help you with that Oneesama." Akane

started

to her feet, only to be waved back.



KASUMI: That won't be necessary. I can handle this

Oneesama by myself,

thank you.



AKANE: This is how missing commas can cause trouble.



@@Tonight on Unsolved Mysteries:

Have you seen this comma? Last seen running

from a small North Carolina home. 



    "No work for the birthday girl," Nabiki smiled



girl."	(again)



sardonically from her position holding up the wall.

"This is

_your_ day."



NABBY: The *other* three hundred and sixty-four,

you'll be doing *all*

the housework.



@@^_^ (which, coincidentally is pretty

much the attitude I thought she'd have. )





<SNIP>



inside a Klein bottle during a storm at sea. "Did

you bake this

Akane?"she asked in a mildly accusing tone.



RANMA: Of course not! This Akane was baked long

before I showed up!



(MIssing comma, and need a space before 'she')



@@Mea Culpa. 

(Although it fits well with a story a friend

of mine is working on. Haute Cuisine and 

necrophilia. It's pretty funny, if it ever

gets finished.) 





    "Aaaaaak!" Ryouga wrenched free of Ranma's

hold

and made a desperate grab for the thing in Kasumi's

hands. 

"T . . .that's mine," he stuttered. "Ummmm . .

.it's for you," he

said blushingly, thrusting what was now revealed to

be a



Suggest: he said, blushing,

(Presumably the blushing refers to the way he

looked, rather than to his

manner of speaking?)



@@Oooops. ^_^;;;;;



    She . . .she touched me, Ryouga thought,

weeping tears

of joy. Now I can die a happy man.



A bit extreme for him, IMO. This is Ryoga, not

Gosunkugi.



@@Extreme? For Ryouga? I guess it's a matter

of interpretation. I always saw Ryouga as a 

rather obsessive, not to say pathological,

personality.

Of course Ranma 1 / 2 IS a comedy. (I thought

I recalled Ryouga worrying about his "heart

of glass" breaking at least once or twice

in the Anime at least.) And he seemed, to me,

to have some rather severe swings of emotion.





<SNIP>

closer. This would be even better than the time he

hit her 

shiatsu sleep-spot, or when he used the dream

incense, or that

time at the hot-springs , or . . .



Well, he should hope so. Because every one of those

times, Ranma chased

him off before he could do anything. :)



@@Exactly. ^_* (well, actually Akane

clobbered him in her sleep during the

shiatsu sleep-spot) But Ranma

did try. 

<SNIP>



    All he had to do was touch Akane with the

"Staff of

Eros" and she would fall madly in love with him.

Almost



And he right away went to use it on her? With so

many beautiful women in

the world, that's awfully decisive for him. :)



@@Well, if he were using it on OTHER women

it wouldn't advance the plot of THIS story, now would

it?  (Besides, the "many beautiful women in the world"

have never stopped him from going after

Akane or Ranma in the past. And getting

clobbered for it. 





<SNIP>

Maybe



well," came



if she snuck up on the sucker? Tofu was tricky.



KASUMI: [dreamy look] Oh, I know.



AKANE: That's not what I meant!



@@<ohhhh> Stop. I hurt from laughing.



<SNIP>

 indicated someone was in the room. It

had taken

her two hours to figure out how to pull the plug on

the darn

thing. And she'd only charged Akane three hundred

yen for the



Suggest: how to get the batteries out of the darn

thing. (I mean, c'mon,

now. Any idiot knows how to pull a plug. Of course,

Akane could've

simply smashed it, or buried it six feet deep....)



@@I wasn't using "pull the plug" in 

a literal sense.  There is no actual plug.

It's got a small thorium nuclear 

battery. (good for 8 years before

it needs to be refueled)



    "Nihao Airen!"



"Nihao, Airen!"



    "Shan Pu bring too, too good lunch."



AKANE: Two? Then give one to me.



SHAN: I say two two. That make four.



@@I give up. I'm NEVER going to

be able to get back in the right frame

of mind to finish this thing. (Hmmm,

maybe if I slam my head in the door?)



<SNIP>



    "FIANCEE!!!" 



"FIANCE!!!"	(Only one e when it's a male)



@@My WP, for what ever reason, cuts off the terminal

"E" when cut/paste to ASCII. I try to remember to do a

global search and replace before posting but sometimes

I forget. :(



    Ukyou gave a tremendous heave and Shan Pu

broke

suction with a wet popping sound. Flipping neatly

through the

air the amorous Amazon landed on her feet, facing

the



air, the



obstreperous okonomiyaki chef. 



(consults dictionary) Um... yeah, okay. Just

checking. :)



@@I may not be able to spell, but I know

what they mean. (usually) ^_^



<SNIP>



    Ukyou countered with her battle spatula held

high over

her head in both hands, the blade slanting down

behind her

back in what looked like a modified "molinello"

stance. The

apparent opening was offset by the tremendous power

of the

stance. It was also an attempt to lure the Amazon

into an

attack.  As soon as Shan Pu thrust, Ukyou would

counter with a

time-cut to her leading arm to remove the offending

limb and

follow that with a return cut to her head that, if

successful,

would leave Shan Pu staring back at her own body

from

several feet away.



    _ If_ she were serious. 



    A little reluctantly Ukyou decided using the

edge

_might_ be just a tad extreme. At least with so

many

witnesses. She would have to be satisfied with just

hurting the

little tart.  Repeatedly. 



Eep. I mean, I like to piss off the Ukyo fanboys as

much as anyone, but

this is rather extreme for her. Suggest taking out

the de-limbing and

decapitating references, unless you *want* to

develop Ukyo goes killer

as a significant part of your story.



@@You'll have to wait and see on that one.

HOWEVER . . .thinking about murder does NOT

mean you actually ARE a murderer. Recall that

Ukyou ostensively spent TEN years (some of them

battling the raging seas) on a quest for vengeance.

She's shown (in a comedic manner) on several 

occasions her willingness to do almost anything 

to eliminate the competition. It's not unreasonable,

IMO, for Ukyou to at least spend a _moment_

daydreaming about removing some of the more

important bits-and-pieces from a rival, w/o

actually intending to do so. (unless she thought

she could get away with it.) It's an exaggeration

of course.

OTOH, Ukyou walks around with a pole-arm

better suited to beheading an ox than making

okonomiyaki. And a bandoleer of "throwing spatulas".

THROWING spatulas?  Gunpowder mixed in

tempura flakes? Bombs at weddings?





<SNIP>



    "SILICON!" Shan Pu half-shrieked in outrage.

"What

you saying?" Replacing her knives Shan Pu stomped

to within



SHAN: Word is SILICONE! Ha ha! Stupid girl no speak

very well Japlish!

@@Hmmm, my spell-check says "silicon".

Or are you saying Shan Pu's "cones" are silly? ^_*



<SNIP>







    "Fortunately she out grew the nightmares at

about the

same time she stopped wetting the bed."



    "Kasumiiiii!" Akane hissed, blushing

furiously.



KASUMI: Oh, Akane, that was a long time ago! Nearly

three years!



@@^_^

(another reader had the same idea. Only they used

"last week"

as I recall. 

<SNIP>





End Chapter 1



Hokay, let's step back and look at the forest rather

than all of these

trees. :)



The story seems like it's going somewhere very

interesting; however,

it's taking an awful long time to get there. The

stuff with the

necromancer and the dying son are both interesting

enough to stand on

their own, but they're (presumably) not what the

story's about, and at

the end of the first chapter we're still only barely

getting into it.



@@Well, the entire thing is at 512KB (Word Perfect,

slightly

less in ASCII) It's not really cut into "chapters" as

such.

It's my understanding that some people have trouble

with files larger than 30-40KB, so I'm splitting it up

into chunks on that basis.



However EVERY thing in the first of the story

is essential (at least I hope so) for the rest of the

story. It a set up for the entire story plus it gives

clues for figuring out what's going on or what

will/might happen. (again, I hope)



So what would I suggest? Well, cut the stock Ranma

interactions down to

bare minimum. Introduce the new element (the thingy

that is no longer a

lantern) with a minimum of other distraction.

Another idea, which may

not be workable but I'll throw it out for

consideration anyway, would be

to put the two backstory segments (Zhang and Mother

Whatsername) in

between blocks of present-day Ranma story in which

Akane's power-up is

introduced, so that the readers don't have to wait a

whole chapter for

the introduction of the main conflict.



That's my 2 yen on this one. Hope to see more

whenever it's ready.



@@Actually, that's what I did. I almost cut the

chapter earlier, at the end of the Amazon's, so

it would be under 30KB. I decided it would be

better to at least introduce the Ranma cast. 

You're right. It does look/feel unbalanced.

All the chapters are going to be more than

a little unbalanced if I'm going to get them 

in under 40K. :(





Gary Kleppe

http://www.akane.org/gary/comics.html



@@As always I appreciate all the time and effort

you spent C&Cing. (It's a lot harder than just

writing.) Assuming I can stop laughing

every time I look at BF, I should finish

the last little bit by Wed. (Of course 

I've never been right yet on a deadline)



If my proof-reader ever quits complaining

about how she's burning up with fever,  or

whining about the fluid in her lungs I'll chain

her to the key-board and get her to proof

the next "chapter" and send it out. 

{Boy, a little walking-pneumonia and

all you get are complaints. Next she'll be

wanting antibiotics and another bowl of

gruel)







OH, BTW . . .I haven't forgotten

"I'm a Guy". 



Still working on it.

Just trying to figure out a way

around the _very_ annoying

and clumsy method I was using

to refer to Akane/Ranma. [One suggestion

I had was to do it in HTML and post

only on the web-page] Once I figure 

that out I'll be back to work. (I've got

about 30-40% of chp. 2 done.) AND

I know where the whole thing is going. 





@@Hmmm, the Wolfhound just vanished into

a snow drift. Better go dig her out.



Thanks again for the C&C. Hope you like

the rest of the story. (will try to get another

chapter

out today if I can get it proofed)















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 And, if any is left, I buy food and clothes."-Erasmus



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and full of wonders." -Lord Dunsany



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