Maybe she likes her version of Ranma ... But if she wants people to
stop telling her that Ranma is OOC, then shouldn't she have a little
note or something, on her fanfic, saying that it's an elseworlds
'fic, and that in her version, Ranma IS a bastard or whatever?

I'm inclined to believe that he's a bastard in the source material, 
as well.

Well, he can be a jerk at times, but he's not a bastard. Herb, Saffron
and Tarou are bastards.

I don't really care about this "accept the fact that there are *some*
people who *do* *not* *see* *it* *your* *way*" business...

That's your problem.  Deal with it.

No, actually, it isn't. It's hardly a 'problem' when I don't care about
that sentence - it's totally hypocritical. If it's said for all the people
who C&Ced her, then it must be said for her, too, and for the guy who
made that statement.

It's for all or none. Not just for some.

If someone is writing about a character, they SHOULD write that
character as IC as they can make them!

Why?

Because otherwise it's not an <insert series here> fanfics. It's just a
fanfic which should be written as an _original_ fanfic, with different
names.

If you want to write an <insert series here> fanfic, it has to be about
that series, and about the characters in that series.

Their personal opinion of that character _should not matter_!

Why not?

See above.

If they want to write their OWN version of that character, why not
make SURE that people know that it is not meant to be the "real"
character, but an elseworld character?

Why?

See above.

I'm sure that if that was made _CLEAR_ in the author's notes, or at
the start of the 'fic ... she would not get people telling her that
her Ranma is OOC.

Maybe, maybe not.

Did she do it in any of the 'fics? Or did she ask for "all comments",
hm?

I haven't read Slayers 1/2. In fact, I haven't read any fanfic in
ages, because I've found myself to be too busy to read even the
fanfics that people send to be personally. But I can't believe that
someone would throw a tantrum over this!

You haven't read it?  Then how do you know that Ranma was OOC?

Notice all the "if"s?

In fanfics, it is NO LONGER ABOUT PERSONAL BELIEFS!

Why not?

Because it is no longer entertainment - it is propoganda.

Fanfics should not be propoganda.

You can sit and hate a character all you want, but when you write
a fanfic, you can NOT transfer all your hatred onto that character
without expecting the character to change!

Why not?

See above.

But when I write, I try to keep her as close to IC
as possible ... 

Do you want a medal? Or a chest...  uhhh, no, I won't go there. :)

HENTAI!! *BAPBAPBAPBAPBAPBAPetc*

though in the stories, she always gets the bad end
of the deal (though it could be much worse *evil grin*). But I do
not go out of my way to portray Shampoo as a bimboish, slutty whore.

Shampoo sells herself?  Where does this happen in the source 
material?

It doesn't. That's the whole point.

>From the quotes I've seen of Slayers 1/2, Akane sure does not act like
any of that in the source material. And Ranma only insults Akane in the
source material. And, well, in the source material the two are in love.

The bits quoted were definately oposing the source material - hence they
were an elseworlds fanfic, not a Ranma 1/2 meets Slayers fanfic.

But, anyway... I'm sorry to say it, but I believe that it's the
author's responsibility to make SURE that the readers know that the
characters will not be IC in their story if they want to write their
own version of the characters.

Where have I heard this before? 

You appear to be caught in an endless loop. :)

I have to beat people over the heads with it till they actually understand
the point. (Yeah, learned that technique in English class.)

(Yes, it may give people
a hint by saying 'Slayers 1/2', but MOST people would still expect
to have Slayers and Ranma 1/2 characters _IC_ in the story... this
does NOT show that it is an elseworlds 'fic.)

And a name like 'The Bitter End' doesn't clue the reader into the 
fact that it has a, well, bitter end, right?

Not really ... I associate the words 'the bitter end' with doing a job
that's really horrible to do, but you do it ... and then once it's done,
you're happpy that it's finally done.

But, I am sorry - this has NOTHING to do with someone's personal
beliefs. This is FANFICTION, _not_ someone expressing their personal
opinion!

I can't tell the difference, can you tell the difference? :)
It seems rather arrogant to assume that everyone else writes fanfics 
for the same reason that you do.

Well, personally, I think that if someone writes for propoganda purposes,
then they deserve all the flames that they get.

If they write for entertainment purposes, then they will do their best
to work with the characters _seen in the original source_, and not make
up OOC stuff to fit the characters in with their own view of them. If
they want the characters to act in a certain way, and it goes against
the original source, then they should mark it 'elseworlds' or they
should make it an original story.

Then I think that _someone_ needs to review their Ranma 1/2 ... I
can't say who that someone is, because I haven't read the 'fics,
but ... from all the people complaining to her ... I'd say that it's
more likely that Ranma _IS_ OOC in Slayers 1/2.

I've read the story, and I disagree.  Put that in your pipe and smoke 
it. :)

And people who have read the story disagree with you, too. So put that
in your pipe and smoke it! ^_^

She should concentrate on fixing it, not just doing a 'quick fix'
like leaving will be.

It's not broken, so why fix it?

Well, if it's not broken, then why is she trying to guilt-trip the ML?

Now seriously, do you think that it's the responsibility of the 
long-time FFML veterans to razz, haze, and otherwise discourage the 
new fic writers from finding their own voice?  Do you really want to 

If it's to stop them guilt tripping others - yes, I will discourage
them. They are wrong to do so - ESPECIALLY if they asked for _all_
C&C!

suppress new talent?  If so, why?  As you said yourself, you don't 

Who's suppressing new talent? I did not tell her to stop writing. Where
are you getting this from?

have time to read new fics anymore.  In light of this, what is 
accomplished by forcing new writers off the list just because _YOU_ 
don't like - or don't think you like - what they have to say?

Who's forcing her off the list? Where, again, did you get this from?
Obviously not from my post ... I told her what she could do to stop
getting people telling her that her characters are OOC.

You seem to be pulling a lot of stuff that I never said from nowhere.

Actually, your post strikes me as something that Ranma might do - 
and, coming from me, that is _definitely_ not a compliment.

If you say so.

I, for one, enjoyed this series, and I'd like to see more of it.  It 

Well, you'd join in and tell her to fix the problem, not to run away and
hide.

rather annoys me that some FFMLers have, through ignorant actions, 
made the author feel threatened enough to stop posting the series 
here.  You are not helping matters, either.  Is that really what the 
FFML is?  A place where people with opinions that differ from the 
'norm' are to be bullied into silence?
I'd like to think not.

M'dear, you're one of the ones trying to bully me into silence because
my opinions do not match yours.

And, well - She was the one trying to bully the C&Cers into silence
because she didn't like it.

And so are you ... and so is the person that I replied to who was telling
everyone else to "deal with it".

If you don't like people getting "bullied" out of speaking what they
feel, then maybe you shouldn't be trying to shut people up.

Kun-chan...
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