Subject: Re: [FFML] [Lemon][Ranma] Ranma no Hentai! ...? (First draft! C&C please)
From: Caroline Seawright
Date: 1/30/1997, 6:45 PM
To: fanfic@fanfic.com

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1. Was this 'fic any more sick than the ones that have lesbian love scenes?

First I thought ABSOLUTELY YES!, but after some time I've come to the
conclusion,
that it cannot be, becouse basically a lesbian love scene and a gay love
scene are
the same thing, just the sex of the participants change.

Hai... this is why I think it's rather silly for people to ask for a lable
for [yaoi], but not for [lesbian] or [bondage] or [chocolate and
hedgehogs] and [OOC] and whatever else people may thing up to put in
'fics.

That's why I said something similar to the ML, while I had just started my
'fic.

It's funny, but I can write male-fem and fem-fem because I can at least,
as a girl, have some insight as to what it would be like. But it was
much harder for the yaoi lemons, as it had nothing to do with a female
at all.

That's why I think it strange that guys can just write fem-fem without
even having any basis for experience, what so ever (apart from maybe
watching some hentai videos).

I can't imagine myself having anything to do with a male-male thing, yet
I could only try and write it, and see what people thought.

I just don't understand how guys can throw off fem-fem things like they
were taking part in them all the time, or something. (Although they do,
very often, get the females acting anything but what females would act
like...) But I guess that those type of 'fics were there just for the
sex, and the authors didn't care too much about if they were acurate or
not.

be similary repulsed by sado-masochistic scenes, but since I've never read
one I can't confirm my hypothesis. 

If I wrote one, I'd romantisise that, too. :p  I hate pain, so if I did,
it wouldn't really be S&M, more like just domination without items of
torture.

There is this fellow named Ralf König. He is a German (I belive) comics
artist who 
writes and draws gay-comics. While I'm not a König-fanatic I still like his
comis quite a lot.
(no, you don't have to be a gay to like his comics ^_^) I found that I was
much more repulsed 
by this story than König's comics, and started to wonder why. 

In the end I came to the conclusion that I was more repulsed by this,
becouse the lemon scenes were
romantic, while in König's comics the love scenes are just sex acts. They
show a gay sex, usually 
quite a brutal one (a quick fuck in an alley), nothing romantic like in this
one.
I've read enough of König's stories to get used to the scenes there, but
this was quite a different one.
And I was repulsed. 

Hmm... I've seen, and liked, a yaoi-type shoujo manga that's to do with a
pedophiliac raping a boy who stays at his house, and the guy is into SMBD
and killing people and other grusome things. But I like it, and it's
probably because it's got a pretty good plot going, interesting characters
and the way the scenes are drawn, it's more ... I don't know ... soft
focus, instead of hard and graphic.

Maybe it's just a difference in the way girls like things and the way that
guys like things, even though it's a similar topic. Generally, girls like
things romanticised. (Although I'm sure that a lot of guys read romance
novels, they were written for girls!) And it's the porn videos that are
sold to the male market, and I'm pretty sure that they don't have much, if
any, romance in them.

One thing about the story itself:IMHO that
(almost-)solve-every-relationship-in-the-series thing
should have been left out. It was too much a clichee and had nothing to do
with the actual purpose
(as I see the purpose of this 'fic) of this fanfic. 

Hm... some people liked it, and some people didn't. Though most seemed to
like the bith with Shampoo trying to sort out her feelings. (And if I cut
out Ukyou, I don't think that the Ukyou fans would be too happy... but
then, they don't like her as the later version of Ukyou, a la final manga,
so... I could cut the Ukyou thing. But I'm leaving in the Ryouga and Akari
thing, just because Akari needs some fair treatment in a few more 'fics!
^_^ )

Kun-chan...