Subject: Re:[FFML] Gay Fanfics
From: Shannon Richmeyer
Date: 1/24/1997, 9:42 AM
To: fanfic@fanfic.com

Somebody wrote:

Almost
all of the stories are poorly written so I can only assume that they are
being posted for attention or a desire to justify their own feelings, or
worse yet to see who can just outdo the other.

You cannot claim that "almost all of the stories are poorly written" and
expect that none of the authors, as you say, of "what would be termed
'gay' fanfic" would be offended.  Richard Lawson has already written a
strong reply to your message, and I am not even sure whether you would
have called his story a "'gay' fanfic".  Which stories do you refer to
when you say "'gay' fanfic"?  Which stories are poorly written?  If you
wish to accuse an author of poor writing, do so to his or her face.
Criticism is what they were asking for when they posted to the FFML.
Don't hide behind a statement of "almost all".

I would like to hear the answer to this since I have been the major
contributor of what yaoi has come over this list and I assume you are
talking about my work.  If they are that much crap, please let me know, and
why.

somebody else wrote:

    Alas, I digress. I would dearly like to see some sort of warning tag
in the event that people continue writing these stories. I mean, when I
got to the end of that fic and Ranma professed his love for KUNO! That just
got absurd.

I believe in the FAQ's that this issue is addressed. And a plea for Lemon
stories to have that tag in the header.

    If it's a serious look into Ranma being gay, then damnit, provide some
sort of reason for his obvious love of Akane.

Ever considered Ranma the BISEXUAL? There's a pretty obvious answer, and
*yes*, I've been thinking about that. I mean, why not, he's.. er..
transgendered? bigendered? ... why not bisexual too? After all, there are a
lot of bisexuals out there.. who's to say Ranma isn't any different? (Yes,
I've been contemplating this for QUITE some time.)

Me too. And considering Akane's 'distaste' for boys...eh...just leave it at
that. Let's just say there is a dirth of material for those with a touch of
ecchi...

[snip]

... Actually, while I'm at it, I've always been curious as to why lemonfics
almost always have lesbianism included but no homosexuality..

ahem...check out most of the stories with a yaoi warning. Though there are
not many of them here...

Well, not
really curious because I'm GUESSING *just from the posts* that a good 90% of
the FFML readers {and posters} are male, and for most of you, that works.
I'm generally not so serious about arguing this sort of thing, but it sets
my teeth on edge. It's kind of bass-ackwards to condemn gayfic but produce
lemons in which all the women have sex but the men get nervous just being in
the same room together. (A la "The Seduction of Ataru" and "Marital Arts" --
it's outright stated, methinks.) La, how silly.

Agreed. A good love story is a good love story, no matter if it's a same
sex pair or not.

At any rate, I really have to wonder how this snowballed into such a ....
spamfest ^_^

touched a nerve, I guess. *shrug*

Nice .sig.

Windlily

(dragoncritter@theCelestialTemple.com)