AAARRRGGGHHH! Spira created the Nothing which begat the Barneys.....

Seriously Dman, you're trying to "tame Saf"?  

<ponders>

Here, you can have my lifetime supply of Neosporin(tm), it may come
in handy.

Scratch that, it will come in handy.

>From my experience in handling tigers, what they need most is respect and
dignity, not taming.  You *can't* tame a tiger, because if youdid, every
thing that made the tiger unique and interesting would be diminished a
little.  I haven't tamed my tiger; however, we have reached an understanding
that suits the both of us.

Foxtrot the Furryous